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Date:         Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:55:01 -0700
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From:         Jennifer Krauel <jkrauel@ACTIONEER.COM>
Subject:      BDG: Last day for nominations
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This is a reminder that today is the last day to send nominations for
upcoming discussions.
You can see a list of nominations so far at:
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Comet/1304/bdg_nom_0699.htm

Voting on the September-December discussion books starts tomorrow, June 30
and concludes Tuesday July 6.

Jennifer
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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 08:59:12 -0700
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Subject:      BDG voting begins
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It's time to cast your votes for the books we will discuss from September
through December.

Take a look at the nominations on:
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Comet/1304/bdg_nom_0699.htm

Cast your ballot by sending your four favorites in an e-mail to Terri at
terriergraphics@cybertours.com before the end of the day next Tuesday July
6.  Please send them to Terri rather than to the whole list!
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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 17:42:45 -0700
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From:         Anitra Freeman <anitra@SPEAKEASY.ORG>
Subject:      Intro: Anitra
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Hello.  It's the practice on most lists I've been on for new members to
send a short introduction to the list, so that you have some idea of
"who is this talking?"  My name is Anitra Freeman.  I'm currently a
freelance writer and activist in Seattle Washington, and I Am A
Bookaholic.  Rather than go on and on, as I am quite capable of doing,
I'll say "my life is an open website" --
My Bookaholics page: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/8516/
My political views: http://www.speakeasy.org/~anitra/politics.html
My "meta" page: http://www.speakeasy.org/~anitra/

A recent challenge on one of the newsgroups I subscribe to spurred me to
compile a page of excellent female (not necessarily feminist) fantasy
and sf authors: http://members.tripod.com/AmusedMuse/sff-fem.html -- I
found this list through one of the reference links I used in compiling
that page. I am also subscribed to a femme-mystery list, and had been
looking for a similar focus-list for sf/fantasy.

I have a research question I hope some of you may help me out on.
Someone on another list asked for re-workings of the Genesis story in
feminist sf.  I know I've seen retellings of Genesis in sf
short-stories, but I recall author/title information.  Does anyone here
recall some?

I noticed one of the first books on the Book Discussion list was
Ammonite, by Nicola Griffith, but the link to the discussion compilation
was broken. I picked up the book after seeing it mentioned there, and
I'm about half through it now.  Any chance of retrieving the compiled
list discussion?

I look forward to hearing from all of you!

--
Write On! / Anitra L. Freeman /
"Never doubt that a small group of imperfect people can improve the
world--indeed they are the only ones who ever have." Not Margaret Mead
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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 21:16:33 EDT
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From:         "B. Garrahy" <XenoThyme@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Intro: Anitra
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Anitra!  What a small world this is!  I have been lurking around here (and
this list's precursor) for quite some time now.  It is nice to see a familiar
face!  You will love it here.  I do. :-)

Bridgett
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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 22:27:40 -0400
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From:         "Janice E. Dawley" <jdawley@TOGETHER.NET>
Subject:      Re: Intro: Anitra
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At 05:42 PM 6/30/99 -0700, Anitra Freeman wrote:
>Hello.  It's the practice on most lists I've been on for new members to
>send a short introduction to the list, so that you have some idea of
>"who is this talking?"  My name is Anitra Freeman.

Welcome, Anitra!

>I noticed one of the first books on the Book Discussion list was
>Ammonite, by Nicola Griffith, but the link to the discussion compilation
>was broken. I picked up the book after seeing it mentioned there, and
>I'm about half through it now.  Any chance of retrieving the compiled
>list discussion?

The BDG web page that is available on the FSFFU site is out of date and
broken, as you saw. The real page, complete with all archives, is now at
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Comet/1304/

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Janice E. Dawley.....Burlington, VT
http://homepages.together.net/~jdawley/
Listening to: The *Velvet Goldmine* Soundtrack
"...the public and the private worlds are inseparably connected;
the tyrannies and servilities of the one are the tyrannies and
servilities of the other." Virginia Woolf, Three Guineas
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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 21:25:09 -0700
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One delicious parody (alternative?) is Raven's creation story from the
Western Cravasses in Samuel R. Delany's Tales of Neveryon.  Delany is a
"card-carrying" feminist.

Anitra Freeman wrote:

> I have a research question I hope some of you may help me out on.
> Someone on another list asked for re-workings of the Genesis story in
> feminist sf.  I know I've seen retellings of Genesis in sf
> short-stories, but I recall author/title information.  Does anyone here
> recall some?
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One delicious parody (alternative?) is Raven's creation story from the
Western Cravasses in Samuel R. Delany's <i>Tales of Neveryon</i>.&nbsp;
Delany is a "card-carrying" feminist.
<p>Anitra Freeman wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I have a research question I hope some of you may
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<br>Someone on another list asked for re-workings of the Genesis story
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<br>short-stories, but I recall author/title information.&nbsp; Does anyone
here
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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 1999 21:36:31 -0700
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>I have a research question I hope some of you may help me out on.
>Someone on another list asked for re-workings of the Genesis story in
>feminist sf.  I know I've seen retellings of Genesis in sf
>short-stories, but I recall author/title information.  Does anyone here
>recall some?

Geoff Ryman's first novel, The Warrior Who Carried Life, contains a
reworking of the Genesis story in which the snake is actually Adam's
penis. If I remember correctly, we run into Adam and Eve in hell.
It's been a while. But it's a great first novel, I recommend it.
