From LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU Fri Sep 10 19:38:01 1999 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 20:49:59 -0500 From: "L-Soft list server at University of Illinois at Chicago (1.8c)" To: Laura Quilter Subject: File: "FEMINISTSF-LIT LOG9907C" ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:34:10 -0500 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Stacey Holbrook Subject: Re: Ranting (NOT raving!) about The Calcutta Chromosome... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Candioglos, Sandy wrote: > I haven't actually finished it yet, but I'm having to force myself to read > the rest of it. (snip) > AAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!! (snip) > Sorry, just had to get that out. (snip) > Maybe I just need to stick to well-written SF, if mainstream fiction > is going to frustrate me this much. *sigh*. (snip) > I feel like I'm being spoon-fed regurgitated pap. Blech. I'm hoping > it actually gets better in the last few chapters, but I'm not holding > my breath. How this thing won an Arthur C. Clarke award is absolutely > beyond me, at this point. Like I said, maybe it gets better. *sigh*. Ack! I came this close < > to checking this book out of the library but I already had about twenty books in my stack and couldn't carry any more. Thanks for the warning! In a way I wish I had read the book so I could rant along with you but I complained about the last couple of books under discussion and I don't want everyone to think that I hate -everything- talked about on this list. Just to show that I really do like a few books out there, I just finished *Sympathy for the Devil* by Holly Lisle and enjoyed the hell out of it. Maybe you could pick up something by her as an antidote to what you are reading now. > -Sandy > Stacey (ausar@netdoor.com) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:46:56 -0500 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Stacey Holbrook Subject: Re: TSNOTD In-Reply-To: <002b01bec984$79517480$f9eccdcf@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Jocelyn & Sheryl Denton-LeSage wrote: (snip) > Personally, I would tell anyone to read Bellwether first. I couldn't get > into TSNOTD at all, but Bellwether made me laugh out loud. I've recommended > it to my friends. I do have to agree with this. *Bellwether* paved the way for TSNOTD for me. While I enjoyed NSNOTD, it is one of those books that I had to read in the right mood or I wouldn't have liked it at all. I just jumped into *Bellwether* and had a great time. > Sheryl > Stacey (ausar@netdoor.com) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 18:25:39 +1200 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Ianthe Subject: Re: Bellwether Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Stacey wrote: >I do have to agree with this. *Bellwether* paved the way for TSNOTD for >me. I think alot of us seem to be agreeing on this, it was the first Willis book that I read, and Sheryl was right, it's really funny. We all know people like Flip, I'm sure! I read the *Doomsday Book* second, then *Lincoln's Dreams*, then *TSNOTD* and *Remake* and *Unchartered Territory* somewhere inbetween. Apart from the last two mentioned (I guess you could say) lesser novels, *Bellwether*'s lighter, and shorter than any of the other biggies, so it's a good one to start with. It's captures popular culture and management in a really great way and it made me stop and ask if I acted like some of Sandra's workmates... For me, the two things, (no three things) that really led into Bellwether were the chaos theory, there's to be some thread in there that connetcs with the self-correction mechanism in *TSNOTD*, although I'm no chaos theorist; the social satire that lets Willis make fun of everybody, although rarely herself, she's not self-deprecating, and most of her characters take themselves very seriously; and the chapter headings in Bellwether, describing the different fads, also the quotes at the start of each section. (Okay, five things) also, the constant reference to literature, Robert Browning seems to be to *Bellwether* what Jerome K Jerome is to *TSNOTD*, and the romance. The books really are quite similar, you've got a quasi-science/social problem that is brought to sort of rights through a series of near misses by the protagonist, who falls in love without quite realising it, in all that chaos.... Her characters aren't very self aware are they? But the thing is, that while alot of people seem to find this a flaw, I think that it's charming. Jenn ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:27:06 -0500 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Annalise Subject: Re: TSNOTD In-Reply-To: from "Stacey Holbrook" at Jul 16, 99 00:46:56 am Content-Type: text > > I do have to agree with this. *Bellwether* paved the way for TSNOTD for > me. While I enjoyed NSNOTD, it is one of those books that I had to read in > the right mood or I wouldn't have liked it at all. I just jumped into > *Bellwether* and had a great time. > > > Stacey (ausar@netdoor.com) I gave "Bellwether" to my Dad to read, a man that really doesn't much, and then usually not fiction. He loved it so much that he would NOT stop talking about it for an entire weekend, and he wasn't even done reading it yet. Edie -- ----- annalise@ripco.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:37:37 -0400 Reply-To: releon@syr.edu Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Rudy Leon Organization: Syracuse University Subject: Conquerors Child In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi all. I just bought this brand new book, and I am *so* excited to read it! I am trying to convince myself to wait to read it until my vacation in two weeks, so I have a question for the list. Are there enough of us reading, or wanting to read, CC, to set a date in mid August for discussion? And would doing so interfere with the discussion of Slave and the Free later in the BDG? Also, the owner of my local feminist book store wanted to know if this book could be read without the other three, because I got her so excited about the book, and she'd like to know how to recommend it -- any thoughts from anyone? Rudy Leon PhD Student Department of Religion Syracuse University releon@syr.edu (315) 425-8171 fax: (707) 982-1780 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:11:26 -0500 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Jocelyn & Sheryl Denton-LeSage Subject: Re: Conquerors Child Comments: To: releon@SYR.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd love to discuss all 4 of the books, but in order, I think. I just finished The Furies and will get CC today at work (I work in a bookstore). Personally, I think Furies is head and shoulders above the first two in quality and thoughtfulness, and I hope CC does it justice. But hey, everybody! The Furies is in print but hard to get at the moment. None of the Ingram warehouses have any on hand, and even though Amazon says they "usually" ship in 2 or 3 days, I doubt they have any either. I had to get mine from a used bookstore, but I had to go to 4 different stores here in town before I found a copy. If you get sucked into this series as I did, you'll NEED the third book. So my advice is, order it from the publisher right now, or start cruising the local used bookstores. Sheryl -----Original Message----- From: Rudy Leon To: FEMINISTSF-LIT@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU Date: Friday, July 16, 1999 9:36 AM Subject: [*FSFFU-LIT*] Conquerors Child Hi all. I just bought this brand new book, and I am *so* excited to read it! I am trying to convince myself to wait to read it until my vacation in two weeks, so I have a question for the list. Are there enough of us reading, or wanting to read, CC, to set a date in mid August for discussion? And would doing so interfere with the discussion of Slave and the Free later in the BDG? Also, the owner of my local feminist book store wanted to know if this book could be read without the other three, because I got her so excited about the book, and she'd like to know how to recommend it -- any thoughts from anyone? Rudy Leon PhD Student Department of Religion Syracuse University releon@syr.edu (315) 425-8171 fax: (707) 982-1780 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:27:36 -0400 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: heather Subject: Re: Conquerors Child In-Reply-To: <199907161436.KAA08092@mailbox.syr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Also, the owner of my local feminist book store wanted to know if >this book could be read without the other three, because I got her >so excited about the book, and she'd like to know how to >recommend it -- any thoughts from anyone? There is a bit of recap and explanation throughout the book so I think a lot of it could be understood on its own. However, that does a great disservice to the reader -- anyone who would be excited about reading Conquerors Child would be best served by reading the other three first. However, it may be that reading #4 first would convince the reader to go back and find #1-3. Financially speaking that may be the best strategy for both bookseller and author (more income from hardcover sales). Maybe stores could offer some kind of promotion, buy #4 and get #1-3 at a discount, something like that? ........................................................... heather whipple / \ kebbo@earthlink.net ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:27:06 -0700 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: SMCharnas Subject: Re: Bellwether and TSNOTG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >The books really are quite similar, you've got a quasi-science/social >problem that is brought to sort of rights through a series of near misses by >the protagonist, who falls in love without quite realising it, in all that >chaos.... Her characters aren't very self aware are they? But the thing is, >that while alot of people seem to find this a flaw, I think that it's charming. > >Jenn It's not so easy to make such characters acceptable, let alone charming, in our highly, ironically self-aware age; it's a tribute to Willis' skills -- and the strenght of her authorial fondness for her characters -- that she succeeds at this for many readers. Suzy Charnas ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:50:41 -0700 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Jessie Stickgold-Sarah Subject: BDG: TSNOTD In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I'm surprised at the number of people who think _Doomsday Book_ and TSNOTD are so different, since to me they had almost all of the same characteristics. Each of them is populated by people who don't know what's going on, each has a mystery, each is jam-packed with tiny tidbits of information; and in the end, almost all of those tidbits are relevant. Doomsday Book does it more successfully, I think, and is also a less lightweight book, but both had exactly the same feel to me. I will admit that the first time I read TSNOTD I had to make a concerted effort to ignore plot; I had no clue what was going on until about the time Ned got on the river. Luckily I love the sort of comedy which features a very long sequence of preposterous disasters, so it wasn't hard to keep going. The part which I found least effective was Ned's total inability to cope with Princess Arjumand: I was a *long* way through the book before I realized why he was so unbelieveably stupid as to let the cat, if you'll forgive me, out of the basket. Was this obvious to everyone else? I didn't guess what either of the butlers were doing, so perhaps I'm just slow. Nor have I read the original Three Men In A Boat; but I did well with the Sayers references, which made me happy. (In fact, when I re-read _Strong Poison_ last week I came upon the throwaway line "Go to Coventry" -- in a faked seance, of course. About fell out of my chair laughing.) Connie Willis seems to have a bizarre sort of hit-or-miss appeal. I've read several of her short stories and found them boring; _Bellwether_ was entertaining but had a little too much fake science for me. _Light Raid_ was only just bearable (although her long-out-of-print novel _Water Witch_ was wonderful when I was 12. Can't find it now.) But I loved DB and liked TSNOTD quite a bit, aside from the rather rushed and cramped "explanation". Yet half the people on this list seemed to have the exact opposite opinion. Go figure. jessie ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 08:30:17 -0700 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Joyce Jones Subject: Re: Conquerors Child Having just finished The Slave and The Free, and The Furies I can see why you'd want to discuss The Conqueror's Child as soon as possible. However I think that would be a big mistake. Even though I think each book could be read on its own, they tie in so well together that each helps to get the full flavor of the other. I would love a discussion of Conqueror's Child, but I don't want any spoilers. Let's give those of us just starting the series a chance. I know Charnas is so wonderful, I can't help recommending her to everyone I know, and it's tempting to discuss whichever book you've just finished. Patience is a virtue, and speaking selfishly, I really want to read Conqueror's Child before I hear anything about it. By the way, I got my copy of the Furies from Book closeouts http://www.bookcloseouts.com/ They still have 16 copies available for $3.99. I'm still looking for a copy of Dorthea Dreams which is a little harder to find. Joyce ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:19:59 -0700 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: SMCharnas Subject: Re: Conquerors Child Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 8:30 AM 7/17/99, Joyce Jones wrote: >Having just finished The Slave and The Free, and The Furies I can see why >you'd want to discuss The Conqueror's Child as soon as possible. (snip) I would not suggest a discussion of CHILD without having first read THE SLAVE AND THE FREE (WALK and MOTHERLINES), and THE FURIES as well if possible. Second, on difficulties in locating copies of THE FURIES: alerted by Joyce's comment I contacted Tor about THE FURIES, and I've been assured that it is *not* OUP. Distributors have put it on the back-burner to foreground newer books, so interested readers may have to kick some rear to get them to cough up copies to your local bookstore. But it is available; there are about 4700 copies left, mass market pp, which Tor is eager to ship. Once those go, there is no telling how long a gap there will be -- probably a year, judging by past experience -- before this book too comes out as tp in the Orb line to join the other volumes in the series. Suzy Charnas ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:24:18 EDT Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Phoebe Wray Subject: Re: Conquerors Child MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/19/99 5:19:29 AM, Suzy Charnas wrote: <> I concur with this. I read, no -- started to read -- The Furies and bogged down. I think it was Donna Simone pointed out to me that it was the third book. Went out and got Slave and the Free (which I much admire) and THEN read the third book with a great deal more pleasure. I like the unfolding and deepening that series books gives us, esp if read in proper sequence. Unfolds the author's skills and concerns as well as providing a good story. Have not read CC yet, so more pleasure awaits me. best phoebe Phoebe Wray zozie@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 15:37:08 +0200 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Diane Severson Subject: The slave and the free MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is the slave and the free a compilation edition of Walk to the End of the World and Motherlines? I'm a bit confused! Diane -- Diane Severson Moerfelder Landstr. 108 60598 Frankfurt am Main (49)(0)69/624595 (+Fax) (49)(0)69/613371 Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:03:10 -0400 Reply-To: releon@syr.edu Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Rudy Leon Organization: Syracuse University Subject: Re: The slave and the free In-Reply-To: <27772.932391428@www2.gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT It's the two actual books published between one cover, under a new name. Like Bujold's Cordelia books, the first two or three of which have been reissued this way, new title, more pages in one binding, nothing new. On 19 Jul 99, , Diane Severson wrote: > Is the slave and the free a compilation edition of Walk to the End of the > World and Motherlines? I'm a bit confused! > > Diane > > -- > Diane Severson > Moerfelder Landstr. 108 > 60598 Frankfurt am Main > (49)(0)69/624595 (+Fax) > (49)(0)69/613371 > > Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net > Rudy Leon PhD Student Department of Religion Syracuse University releon@syr.edu (315) 425-8171 fax: (707) 982-1780 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:13:24 -0400 Reply-To: releon@syr.edu Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Rudy Leon Organization: Syracuse University Subject: Re: Conquerors Child In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I guess y'all have convinced me not to talk about the book right away, and I think I've convinced myself to wait 'til my vacation to read it -- it's just that I've found that waiting to talk about a book greatly diminishes the talking about it that I do.... I've read the first three, and they're just fantastic. This book though, has my expectations in overload, and I'm working on getting those under control before reading it, because otherwise, there's nothing but disappointment that can happen there. There may be spoilers below if you haven't read the series, so s p o i l e r s p a c e What I'm all excited about, however, makes it hard to calm it down - - CC seems to me to be the book that utopian/dystopian writers refuse to write. HOW will the slaves create a new just world, while still bearing the immediate scars of their slavery? how will 'utopia' come to be? This was my great disappointment with _Mercury Rising_ (Starhawk) -- I thought that it would include the story of *how* 4 old women put off an army and convinced a modern (albeit SanFran) selfish city to pick up pick axes and rebuild their possibilities? How did their council come to be? Almost a manual in a sense, but still a gripping and engaging story possibility. So, that's where my lack of restraint is living, but I'll wait the 6 months or so to talk it over with y'all. On 18 Jul 99, , SMCharnas wrote: > I would not suggest a discussion of CHILD without having first read THE > SLAVE AND THE FREE (WALK and MOTHERLINES), and THE FURIES as well if > possible. Rudy Leon PhD Student Department of Religion Syracuse University releon@syr.edu (315) 425-8171 fax: (707) 982-1780 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:51:01 EDT Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Phoebe Wray Subject: Re: The slave and the free MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/19/99 1:47:19 PM, Diane wrote: <> Yes. phoebe ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:00:25 -0500 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Frances Gateward Subject: CFP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" FEMSPEC An interdisciplinary refereed feminist journal dedicated to critical, pedagogical, and creative works in the realms of science fiction, fantasy, magical realism, and other supernatural genres If you are interested in speculating, theorizing, creating, and questioning gender across the boundaries of what is real and what is not real, consider submitting your work to FEMSPEC. We seek interdisciplinary approaches and encourage work on teaching, as well as literary and cultural criticism and creative material, from a variety of feminist approaches. Our aim is to be inclusive of ethnic and cultural diversity in an internationalist perspective. We invite work between genres as well: coverage of conferences, personal essays, non-fiction, media critiques, analyses of popular culture, transcripts from dialogues on relevant topics, interviews with authors, art and photography, and work by or about girls of any age. Special Issue: Real and Imagined Blackness: Race and Culture in Speculative Art and Fiction Submissions: Please send FOUR copies of your submission by regular mail. Your name and address should be included only on your cover letter; the work itself should have only the title. If you wish the copies returned, please include a self-addressed-stamped envelope with sufficient postage. Critical/analytical articles 15 pages, MLA style Creative Writing Short fiction or plays (15 pages) & poetry (3 poems) Reviews Art, books, television, film, conferences, conventions (1,000 words or less) Deadline for this special issue: October 1, 1999 Contact: Guest Editor Frances Gateward gateward@uiuc.edu Unit for Cinema Studies 3092 FLB 707 S. Mathews University of Illinois Urbana, IL 61801 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:24:33 -0700 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: "Candioglos, Sandy" Subject: Re: Conquerors Child MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Powell's still has several copies of the Furies on the shelf at their main store (I was there yesterday); their web site lists 9 copies (some new, some used, some HB, some MM). http://www.powells.com -Sandy > -----Original Message----- > From: SMCharnas [mailto:suzych@SOCRATES.NMIA.COM] > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 1999 11:20 PM > To: FEMINISTSF-LIT@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU > Subject: Re: [*FSFFU-LIT*] Conquerors Child > > > At 8:30 AM 7/17/99, Joyce Jones wrote: > >Having just finished The Slave and The Free, and The Furies > I can see why > >you'd want to discuss The Conqueror's Child as soon as possible. > > (snip) > > I would not suggest a discussion of CHILD without having > first read THE > SLAVE AND THE FREE (WALK and MOTHERLINES), and THE FURIES as > well if possible. > > Second, on difficulties in locating copies of THE FURIES: > alerted by Joyce's > comment I contacted Tor about THE FURIES, and I've been > assured that it is > *not* OUP. Distributors have put it on the back-burner to > foreground newer > books, so interested readers may have to kick some rear to get them to > cough up copies to your local bookstore. But it is > available; there are > about 4700 copies left, mass market pp, which Tor is eager to > ship. Once > those go, there is no telling how long a gap there will be -- > probably a > year, judging by past experience -- before this book too > comes out as tp > in the Orb line to join the other volumes in the series. > > Suzy Charnas > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 23:29:49 -0700 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Joyce Jones Subject: BDG topics Sept to Dec 99 Rudy said: "So, that's where my lack of restraint is living, but I'll wait the 6 months or so to talk it over with y'all." Maybe you wanted to jump into a discussion of Conqueror's Child in August because you didn't realize how soon we'd start the discussion of The Slave and the Free. I thought that discussion would naturally lead to a discussion of Child, perhaps as spoilers, but still at the same time. Now I'm wondering if I have it wrong. Does the group agree that we need wait several months for Child, or may we discuss all the books at the same time? It's such a wonderful series, I'd love to be able to discuss how everything leads into everything else. Were you thinking, Rudy, that we'd have to wait until the next round of nominees? Joyce Sept. 6 The Slave and the Free, by Suzy McKee Charnas Oct. 4 Ring of Swords, by Eleanor Arnason Nov. 1 The Mistress of Spices, by Chitra Banerjee Divakaruni Dec. 6 Flying Cups and Saucers, eds. Debbie Notkin et al. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:25:27 +0200 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Diane Severson Subject: intoduction! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all! I hope this isn't considered off-topic - I just wanted to introduce myself and thank Joyce for sending a list of the topics till December. I've been having trouble getting into the archives on the website and the list there only runs through May (I think). I'm Diane Severson, I'm originally from Madison, WI but I've lived in Germany for 8 years. I have 2 degrees in Music-Vocal performance, I specialized in early music (anything that can be performed on Period instruments or with a historical philosophy). I work in Europe and the US as a free-lance singer and I teach voice a little privately. I host the Science Fiction / Fantasy message board on a women's network (ivillage.com) and I love it. I was very excited about finding this discussion group as well. I love to read - just about anything (except harlequin romances!) - but my passion is Science Fiction. I have always prefered female authors. I'm looking forward to great discussions! Diane dianeseverson@gmx.net -- Diane Severson Moerfelder Landstr. 108 60598 Frankfurt am Main (49)(0)69/624595 (+Fax) (49)(0)69/613371 Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:54:09 -0400 Reply-To: releon@syr.edu Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Rudy Leon Organization: Syracuse University Subject: Re: BDG topics Sept to Dec 99 In-Reply-To: <000b01bed279$46c76120$d6cafcd0@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thanks Joyce! I didn't realize that _Slave and the Free_ was September's book! I can probably wait 'til then. Although it seems a little intense to have 4 significant books (which will definitely provoke talk if my students are any barometer) the month a lot of the list goes back to school... Not that I'm advocating moving it til later, just noticing the timing. Rudy > Sept. 6 The Slave and the Free, by Suzy McKee Charnas > Oct. 4 Ring of Swords, by Eleanor Arnason > Nov. 1 The Mistress of Spices, by Chitra Banerjee Divakaruni > Dec. 6 Flying Cups and Saucers, eds. Debbie Notkin et al. > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:14:26 -0700 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Laura Quilter Subject: Angela Carter bulletin board (fwd) Comments: To: feministsf@uic.edu, -Fem-SF list , feministsf-lit@uic.edu Comments: cc: "From: kfox" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/ALTERNATIVE; BOUNDARY="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BED363.659A8100" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BED363.659A8100 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=iso-8859-1 Content-ID: fyi y'all ... Laura Quilter / lquilter@igc.apc.org "If I can't dance, I don't want to be in your revolution." -- Emma Goldman *** NEW TRIAL FOR MUMIA ABU-JAMAL *** ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:25:47 +0100 From: kfox To: lquilter@igc.apc.org Subject: Angela Carter I think I have already been in touch with you, but I'm looking to promote an Angela Carter message board, and I needed some advise. I fyou could help in any way I would be grateful, as I don't even have a web site yet. The board can be reached on http://www.insidetheweb.com/mbs.cgi/mb659155 Thank You, K.Fox ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BED363.659A8100--