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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 02:00:47 -0800
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From:         Joyce Jones <hoop5@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Subject:      upcoming movies

Here's a disappointment.  I found this site devoted to, what else, upcoming
movies.  Since we had discussed the possibility of some of our books being
made into movies, I thought I find out something about The Sparrow.
Nothing, it's just listed as a possibly going to be made movie, no details;
same with Ender's Game.  I was hoping for real details, guess I'm just going
to have to wait.

http://upcomingmovies.com/tba.html

Joyce
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Date:         Sat, 25 Dec 1999 09:01:32 -0500
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From:         Marcie McCauley <willow@HOME.COM>
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Subject:      Piercy's WotEoT and Bryant's TKoAaWfY
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Hello all!

If one must be ill, it is most pleasant if the afflicted is
still able to hold up a book and so I can find the silver lining
in having been sick abed for the past five days. Once the fever
had dropped, I was able to simply read for hours and hours, in
between napping, which, had I been able to breathe through my
nose, might be mistaken for my brand of utopia. ;)

Feminist speculative fiction is one of my true pleasures though
as such it's often the last thing I allow myself to read, so
lately I've been making a point of delving into the classics of
the field (at least those which I have collected or can find at
the library). I did take part in the brief discussion of
_Mistress of Spices_ but haven't been able to get copies of the
_Cups and Saucers_ anthology or the upcoming Jane Yolan at the
library (though they have 151 other entries for her?!?); when my
budget allows, I'll catch up on those fronts.

So I've just finished Marge Piercy's _Woman on the Edge of Time_
and Dorothy Bryant's _The Kin of Ata Are Waiting for You_. I'm a
big fan of Piercy's general fiction as well and had just
recommended her to a friend who was lamenting the heavy weight
of plot in much sci-fi and fantasy at the expense of
characterization so I figured I'd better have actually read
WotEoT by the time she took my advice. <g> One of my favourite
things about her writing is the bonds between women and this is
certainly evident in the friendship between Connie and Sybil.
And the Bryant book had been begging for some attention since I
ordered it last spring.

One of the themes that appears in both books that fascinates me
is the question of what constitutes reality. The reader can't
help but wonder (if only briefly) if Connie really visits with
Luciente and her family or if she is hallucinating as the
average doctor in the hospital would be certain to assert. And
in _Ata_ the theme is more directly explored as they believe
that dreams are as (or more) real than one's waking hours, to
the surprise (and, initially, frustration) of our hero.

One of the main differences between the two books I found was
the flow of the prose. Bryant's seems to draw your eye forward,
though perhaps it was the generous typeface in the edition I
have <g>. Piercy's caught me up every time I came across the
word "per". However, while I might have cited this in a whining
tone with another book <smirk>, I was thrilled by it here. It
was an immediate reminder of the power of the pronoun and the
fact that traditionally the masculine form is accepted as the
universal (and we "ought not" to question the validity of this
form <tongue in cheek>) and how often our eyes must slide over
this without noticing. Such an innovation is always a challenge
to read.

I realize that many of you will have read these some time ago
but I was hoping that you might have some thoughts on one or
both of these works. I'll try to check back between naps,
tearing myself away from the new Sheri Tepper.

Marcie, whose tbr pile never truly dwindles
