From LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU Thu Jul 12 20:29:21 2001 Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 07:39:59 -0500 From: "L-Soft list server at UIC (1.8d)" To: Laura Quilter Subject: File: "FEMINISTSF-LIT LOG0009E" ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:42:30 -0400 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Terri Subject: BDG Voting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Hi Everyone All the votes have been counted and here are the results: Gregory Maguire: Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West Angela Carter: Nights at the Circus Suzy McKee Charnas: The Conqueror's Child (The Holdfast Chronicles, Book 4) Mary Gentle: A Secret History: The Book of Ash 1 As for the order of which they will be read, we need to speak with the nominators to see if there are any time restraints for them about which month they will be able to lead discussions. This will be announced next week. Thank you for such a great turn out! Terri ------------------------------------------------------ This is the FEMINISTSF-LIT listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF-LIT Contact FEMINISTSF-LIT-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:50:44 -0400 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: "Patricia P. Lillquist" Subject: Re: BDG Voting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Question about Conqueror's Child - This is book 4 - How necessary is reading the first 3 in the series? Can this book stand alone or will the experience be less if you haven't? Advice from those who had read this. Thanks. Pat. ------------------------------------------------------ This is the FEMINISTSF-LIT listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF-LIT Contact FEMINISTSF-LIT-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:12:44 -0600 Reply-To: rudileon@earthlink.net Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Rudy Leon Subject: Re: Charnas In-Reply-To: <200009291250.IAA22662@gate1.health.state.ny.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I would think it would be pretty important. I've started CC, but not finished it, and I don;t think the characterizations would be very understandable without the previous three books. In particular, I don't think SMC captures/explains the various 'countries' which shaped the various characters. Of course, I might just be a little biased! These books are wonderful, and disturbing, and should be read by all! The first two came back into print in a single edition. Info: _Walk to the end of the world & Motherlines_ by Suzy McKee Charnas. The Woman's Press 1995 isbn 0-7043-4154-9. It doesn't say anything about a US distributor, but I've bought two copies in the US, so someone must distribute it! The Third is _The Furies_ Is Suzy still onlist? On 29 Sep 2000, at 8:50, Patricia P. Lillquist wrote: > Question about Conqueror's Child - This is book 4 - How necessary is reading > the first 3 in the series? > Can this book stand alone or will the experience be less if you haven't? Advice > from those who had read this. Thanks. Pat. Rudy ------------------------------------------------------ This is the FEMINISTSF-LIT listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF-LIT Contact FEMINISTSF-LIT-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:34:26 -0700 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Margaret McBride Subject: Re: conqueror's child In-Reply-To: <200009291250.IAA22662@gate1.health.state.ny.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To understand Conqueror's Child, I think you need to have read the first 2 and preferably all 3. They are definitely worth reading (intro texts for the history of feminist SF). The first 2 are fairly quick reads, but maybe we should put that discussion for month 3 or 4 to let people have a chance to read the others first. ------------------------------------------------------ This is the FEMINISTSF-LIT listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF-LIT Contact FEMINISTSF-LIT-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:23:17 -0400 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Heather Hacker Subject: Re: conqueror's child In-Reply-To: <2145D9E65368D211996300104B3302F250655E@exchange.dtechdirect.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To all- I agree, I think Conqueror's Child should be the last one of the four. I love to read - and read every day - but, if I need to read three other books to fully understand the fourth, I'm gonna need a little more time to digest it all. I definitely vote for the Gregory McGuire book to be first, I'm excited to reread it and even more excited to discuss it. Heather -----Original Message----- From: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC [mailto:FEMINISTSF-LIT@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU]On Behalf Of Margaret McBride Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 1:34 PM To: FEMINISTSF-LIT@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU Subject: Re: [*FSF-L*] conqueror's child To understand Conqueror's Child, I think you need to have read the first 2 and preferably all 3. They are definitely worth reading (intro texts for the history of feminist SF). The first 2 are fairly quick reads, but maybe we should put that discussion for month 3 or 4 to let people have a chance to read the others first. ------------------------------------------------------ This is the FEMINISTSF-LIT listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. 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To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF-LIT Contact FEMINISTSF-LIT-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:21:50 EDT Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Phoebe Wray Subject: Re: conqueror's child MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There has been considerable discussion about this series of books. I assume it's in the archives. best, phoebew ------------------------------------------------------ This is the FEMINISTSF-LIT listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF-LIT Contact FEMINISTSF-LIT-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 22:15:41 +0100 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Lesley Hall Subject: Mary Shelley Comments: To: Feminist SF Fantasy and Utopia MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01C02B2B.F8755100" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C02B2B.F8755100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Out of the corner of my eye this week I noticed someone asking for info = on biographies of Mary Shelley but I've deleted the messages and can't = remember which of the 2 lists this appeared on. There is a new bio of Shelley by Miranda Seymour (London: John Murray, = GBP25) although amazon.co.uk alleges this is not yet published (though = the _Literary Review_, where I just read the review of it, is already = offering it via their bookship at a reduced price) - however, their = listing under Mary Shelley cites numerous studies, also her published = letters, as well numerous editions of Frankenstein and other works. This = should provide some suggestions for things to look up in libraries or = get them to access for you. The Seymour book doesn't seem to be listed yet on amazon.com but = 'Mary Shelley' brings up 365 hits! Lesley Hall lesleyah@primex.co.uk website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C02B2B.F8755100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Out of the corner of my eye this = week I noticed=20 someone asking for info on biographies of Mary Shelley but I've deleted = the=20 messages and can't remember which of the 2 lists this appeared = on.
There is a new = bio of=20 Shelley by Miranda Seymour (London: John Murray, GBP25) although = amazon.co.uk=20 alleges this is not yet published (though the _Literary Review_, where I = just=20 read the review of it, is already offering it via their bookship at a = reduced=20 price) - however, their listing under Mary Shelley = cites=20 numerous studies, also her published letters, as well numerous editions = of=20 Frankenstein and other works. This should provide some suggestions for = things to=20 look up in libraries or get them to access for you.
    The Seymour book doesn't seem to = be listed=20 yet on amazon.com but 'Mary Shelley' brings up 365 hits!
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