From LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU Tue Feb 12 16:52:53 2002 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 18:38:46 -0600 From: "L-Soft list server at UIC (1.8d)" To: Laura Q Subject: File: "FEMINISTSF-LIT LOG0110D" ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:56:28 -0700 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Joyce Jones Subject: story title Comments: To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On another list we're discussing Even the Queen http://asimovs.com/_issue_0112/eventhequeen.html Someone posted the following. Anyone know what story she means? She's sure it's a story, not a novel. Joyce the Faithless Currently reading: Daughter of Elysium by Joan Slonczewski Currently listening to: The Fourth Hand by John Irving (don't bother) "our discussions lately, have reminded me of a sf short story written sometime, maybe in the 70's by, I think, Reconna Shelton, or one of her other psuedonyms. It wasn't under the James Tipptree Jr. name. (I think) I can't remember it's name, but I think if won a Hugo and/or Nebula. It was about a society in the US in the future, where women were being persecutied, even to the death, by religious fanatics, called either the Paulines or Paulites. Women had to dress like the Muslim women, travel in groups, etc. Men were getting visits and instructions from messengers, considered angels." ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 23:15:46 -0700 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: John Snead Subject: Re: story title Comments: To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC In-Reply-To: <200110240140.ttcl2i.jd2.37kbi5q@tyner.mail.mindspring.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Joyce Jones wrote: > Someone posted the following. Anyone know what story she means? > She's sure it's a story, not a novel. > > Joyce the Faithless > Currently reading: Daughter of Elysium by Joan Slonczewski > Currently listening to: The Fourth Hand by John Irving (don't bother) > > "our discussions lately, have reminded me of a sf short story written > sometime, maybe in the 70's by, I think, Reconna Shelton, or one of > her other psuedonyms. It wasn't under the James Tipptree Jr. name. > (I think) I can't remember it's name, but I think if won a Hugo and/or > Nebula. > > It was about a society in the US in the future, where women were being > persecutied, even to the death, by religious fanatics, called either > the Paulines or Paulites. Women had to dress like the Muslim women, > travel in groups, etc. Men were getting visits and instructions from > messengers, considered angels." I remember it, it was in the special Women's Issue of Analog, back in the late 70s. I forget the title but it was by Alice Sheldon (aka James Tiptree) writing as Racoona Sheldon (IIRC, it was her last story before she came out as who she really was). -John Snead sneadj@mindspring.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:06:16 GMT Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Lesley Hall Subject: Re: story title Comments: To: feministsf-lit@UIC.EDU > Someone posted the following. Anyone know what story she means? She's sure > it's a story, not a novel. 'The Screwfly Solution' by Racoona Sheldon (another of the pseudonyms of Alice Sheldon aka James Tiptree jr) Lesley Hall lesleyah@primex.co.uk Website: http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 01:46:52 +1000 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: patricia fenech Subject: Re: story title Comments: To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC In-Reply-To: <200110240616.CAA14213@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This seems to be a fairly comprehensive bibliography of her works - it might help?? http://hubcap.clemson.edu/~sparks/tiptree1.html Pat Fenech ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 01:46:54 +1000 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: patricia fenech Subject: Re: story title Comments: To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC In-Reply-To: <200110240616.CAA14213@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Or this ... Analog Science Fiction: Fiction Index Sa- October, 1960 - present Sheldon, Raccoona, (Alice Hastings Bradley Sheldon, aka James Tiptree, Jr.) --The Screwfly Solution, June, 1977. * which is the only entry under that pen-name. Pat Fenech ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:20:06 -0700 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Kristina Solheim Subject: Re: story title Comments: To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 01:46 AM 10/25/2001 +1000, you wrote: >--The Screwfly Solution, June, 1977. * I found it online: http://www.mtsu.edu/~english/305/Stories/screwfly.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 13:15:19 EDT Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Joy Martin Subject: Re: story title Comments: To: feministsf-lit@uic.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was telling someone about this story just the other day, thinking it was Tiptree, but not sure, so I'm glad someone on this list mentioned it and reminded me of the title. Thanks.-Joy Martin ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:17:22 +0200 Reply-To: Torreif Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Torreif Subject: Re: Welcome to Feminist SF/Fantasy & Utopia - Literature *ONLY* list! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Saturday, October 13, 2001, 10:56:10 PM, L-Soft list server at UIC (1.8d) wrote: LSlsaU18> Welcome to FeministSF-lit - a list for fans, writers, activists and LSlsaU18> scholars to discuss feminist science fiction. Your list owner is Laura LSlsaU18> Quilter (lquilter@igc.apc.org) (and Chris Shaffer shaffer@uic.edu for LSlsaU18> emergencies). LSlsaU18> The Feminist Science Fiction, Fantasy & Utopia *LIT ONLY* ListServe LSlsaU18> is a space for discussion of this literature. It is a mailing list, LSlsaU18> which means that every email will go to all subscribers mailboxes. I am a 37 year old Jewish lesbian, originally from the US. I go by several names, depending on my mood and where I am. I came to Nederland to live with my girlfriend, whom I knew for 2 years online before moving our relationship to real life.. I've been here for more than a year now. If anyone had told me a few years ago that I would uproot myself, put everything in storage and go half-way around the world to be with the woman I love, I'd have told them they were nuts...yet, that's exactly what I did. In college, I was one of the first two women to earn a minor in Gender Studies, the first year it was instituted. I have always had a strong interest in feminist subjects; my favorites have been feminist theology and feminist literature. I enjoy debating and analyzing feminist issues in literature and tend to prefer mostly female authors as well as movies and tv which feature strong women characters. I have been writing poetry since 1983, beginning while in college. In the beginning, all of my poems were either related to escaping the abusive home of my birth parents or about Jewish holidays. Next came some pagan-focused and nature-focused poems. Later, when I came out in 1986, I added some poems about that. I've tried my hand at political poems, but they have generally flopped big time. My most powerful poems are those I started with, especially those which link my journey from the abusive home to the Pesach journey. Some of my poems have been published in the WeMoon calendar and in some Haggadot for Pesach. Some day, I hope to publish a collection of my poetry. My personality varies a lot, depending on my mood, and I am full of contradictions...alternatingly extroverted and shy, analytical and creative, spontaneous at times and organized at others. Also assertive, romantic, passionate, opinionated, honest. Favorite authors: Marion Zimmer Bradley (I have been a fan of Marion Zimmer Bradley ever since I read my first Darkover novel. I've read most of them; my favorites are those which deal with the Renunciates. I am a butch leather dyke and have been part of Amazon communities both real life and online since I was in college. I was part of an Amazon guild based on Marion Zimmer Bradley's Free Amazons of Darkover and still keep to the oath I swore so many years ago.), Ursula Leguin, Mercedes Lackey and many others. Other interests include singing, drumming, and spending time in nature. -- Wildbird mailto:torreif@yahoo.co.uk "You seem to know a little about everything. Medicine, exobiology, shield harmonics..." "I'm something of a renaissance EMH." Ktai and the Doctor,"Bliss." Owner/Moderator of: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MoonShield_WingSisters http://groups.yahoo.com/group/magevale ICQ: 82980723 Authorization required OutVale Wizard for MageVale MUSH, an adult kink-friendly role play MUSH Telnet:MageVale.mudservices.com:3333 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:13:51 -0700 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Joyce Jones Subject: Re: story title Comments: To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you, thank you all. I knew you'd come through. I just read the story. Wow, way pre-Taliban, but she must have had a crystal ball. Sheldon, Raccoona, (Alice Hastings Bradley Sheldon, aka James Tiptree, Jr.) --The Screwfly Solution, June, 1977. * I found it online: http://www.mtsu.edu/~english/305/Stories/screwfly.html Joyce the Faithless Currently reading: Daughter of Elysium by Joan Slonczewski Currently listening to: The Crocodile Bird by Ruth Rendell