From LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU Tue Feb 12 16:53:25 2002 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 18:38:48 -0600 From: "L-Soft list server at UIC (1.8d)" To: Laura Q Subject: File: "FEMINISTSF-LIT LOG0112E" ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:07:15 +0100 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Petra Mayerhofer Subject: Important texts of feminist sf/utopia? Comments: To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC , "FSFFU (E-Mail)" In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20011227203053.03f25990@mailbox.bellatlantic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit One of the German SF clubs intends to publish an anthology of essays on speculative fiction by women and because of my (German) website on feminist sf they have asked me to contribute a bibliography. It's an interesting project and I didn't want to refuse although feminist sf is _not_ identical to women's sf (of course, there's some overlap). The deadline is tomorrow but because of a lot of other things to do I only found in the last 2 weeks time to prepare my contribution. In contrast to a website there's only limited space in a publication so the toughest question is which works to include and which to leave out. My final (?) list (that is probably too long) is attached in the end and I ask you, if you like, to give feedback on it. I'd appreciate it very much. I see this as a fan project, not as an endeavour of literary criticism. To my mind the objective of the bibliography is to keep certain works in the minds of the readers and to encourage them to look for them. In the bibliography German editions will be listed if available otherwise the original edition. In addition, a rough categorization will be provided (e.g. science fiction, fantasy, utopia, matriarchat, female warriors, hermaphrodites, inclusive language). For the list I applied the following criteria (at least I tried, it is sometimes hard to be consistent) - speculative fiction by women and men (although in the end not many works by male authors are included) - it has to be feminist in some way, although I did not develop and apply a fixed definition of feminism, i.e. there are some works included whose feminism is completely contrary to that of other works (and to my own point of view), - included are all Tiptree winners - included are all works short-listed for the retrospective Tiptree, but only some from the Tiptree short-lists from 1991 on - I haven't read all works on this list, many texts are included because they are often cited in literary criticism and reviews of feminist sf (as far as I've read that) and on these email lists. - A higher priority is given to works that have already been translated into German, i.e. texts not yet translated are only listed if at least some importance is attached to them. - Shorter fiction is rarely included, only if it is of relative high importance to feminist sf. My question is, whether you see _important_ gaps in the list below (there are of course lots of gaps, one cannot list all). Or perhaps you see works of lesser importance or completely inappropriate ones in your opinion listed? Works not included at the moment but on which I'm ambiguous are (none of these I've read) -'Man's Rights: Or How Would You Like It?' by Annie Denton Cridge (19th century) - Divine Endurance by Gwyneth Jones - The Misconceiver by Lucy Ferriss I've also got the feeling something by Josephine Saxton should be included but what exactly (no book by Josephine Saxton has been translated into German (only some stories), furthermore I haven't read anything by her, so I cannot judge myself). As the list is nonetheless long (at the moment it consists of 145 items) I tried to highlight very, very important works with ** and important works with *. My personal impression certainly played an important role here, but also the impact the work made at the time it was published. Nonetheless it's again a potential point of contention. The winners of the retrospective Tiptree are given ** as well as a few other texts. At the moment no work published after 1985 (The Handmaid's Tale) is given **. By the way, in the list below the German sf is left out. As IMHO it's more interesting the list is ordered chronilogically. I hope you have fun with it. To all of you a Happy New Year. Petra -- Petra Mayerhofer p.mayerhofer@web.de Feministische phantastisch-utopische Literatur http://www.feministische-sf.de Feminist speculative fiction: ============================= 1668 (1) The Blazing World. Margaret Cavendish 1818 (2) Frankenstein, or, The Modern Prometheus. Mary Shelley 1880-81 (3) Mizora. Mary E. Bradley Lane (4) *'The Yellow Wallpaper'. Charlotte Perkins Gilman (5) Unveiling a Parallel : A Romance. Alice Ilgenfritz Jones, Ella Merchant 1914 (6) Angel Island. Inez Haynes Gillmore 1915 (7) **Herland. Charlotte Perkins Gilman 1928 (8) *Orlando. Virginia Woolf 1933 (9) *'Shambleau'. C. L. Moore 1934-39 (10) **Jirel of Joiry (Collection of 1969, stories of 1934-39). C. L. Moore 1937 (11) Swastika Night. Katharine Burdekin 1944 (12) 'No Woman Born'. C. L. Moore 1958-1998 (13) Weird Women, Wired Women (collection of 1998, stories of 1958-98). Kit Reed 1960 (14) Venus Plus X. Theodore Sturgeon 1962 (15) *Memoirs of a Spacewoman. Naomi Margaret Mitchison 1966 (17) Babel 17 . Samuel Delany (18) 'When I Was Miss Dow'. Sonya Dorman 1967 (19) *'The Heat Death of the Universe'. Pamela Zoline 1968 (21) *Picnic on Paradise. Joanna Russ 1969 (22) 'For the Sake of Grace'. Suzette Haden Elgin (23) Heroes and Villains. Angela Carter (24) *Les Guerilleres. Monique Wittig (25) **The Left Hand of Darkness. Ursula K. Le Guin 1971 (26) *The Kin of Ata are Waiting for You / The Comforter. Dorothy Bryant 1972 (27) **'When It Changed'. Joanna Russ 1973 (28) 'The Girl Who Was Plugged In'. James Tiptree Jr. (29) *'The Women Men Don't See'. James Tiptree Jr. 1974 (30) The Hearing Trumpet . Leonora Carrington (32) *The Memoirs of a Survivor. Doris Lessing (33) *Walk to the End of the World. Suzy McKee Charnas 1975 (35) **The Female Man. Joanna Russ (36) *Le satellite de l'Amande. Francoise d'Eaubonne (37) Solution Three. Naomi Margaret Mitchison 1976 (38) The Clewiston Test. Kate Wilhelm (39) *The Dispossessed. Ursula K. Le Guin (40) *'Houston, Houston, Do You Read?'. James Tiptree Jr. (42) *The Shattered Chain. Marion Zimmer Bradley (43) Triton. Samuel Delany (44) **Woman on the Edge of Time. Marge Piercy 1977 (45) *Egalias Dotre. Gerd Brantenberg (46) The Passion of New Eve. Angela Carter (47) 'The Screwfly Solution'. James Tiptree Jr. (48) We Who are About to ... . Joanna Russ 1978 (50) 'The Barbie Murders'. Anna-Louise Bach (Psyeudonym of John Varley) (51) *Dreamsnake. Vonda N. McIntyre (52) **Motherlines. Suzy McKee Charnas (53) *Two of Them. Joanna Russ 1979 (54) *Amazons! Jessica Amanda Salmonson (ed.) (55) Benefits. Zoe Ann Fairbairns (57) Kindred. Octavia Butler (58) The New Gulliver or, The Adventures of Lemuel Gulliver Jr. in Capovolta. Esme Dodderidge (59) The Ruins of Isis. Marion Zimmer Bradley (60) *The Watchtower. Elizabeth A. Lynn 1980 (61) 'Abominable'. Carol Emshwiller (62) Canopus in Argos: Archives: The Marriages Between Zones Three, Four, and Five. Doris Lessing (63) The Demeter Flower. Rochelle Singer (64) *The Northern Girl. Elizabeth A. Lynn (65) *The Snow Queen. Joan D. Vinge (67) *The Wanderground : Stories of the Hill Women. Sally Miller Gearhart 1981 (68) Le silence de la cite. Elisabeth Vonarburg (69) Wild Seed. Octavia Butler 1982 (71) The Godmothers. Sandi Hall (72) *The Mists of Avalon. Marion Zimmer Bradley 1983 (74) City of Sorcery. Marion Zimmer Bradley (76) *Thendara House. Marion Zimmer Bradley 1984 (77) 'Bloodchild'. Octavia Butler (80) *Native Tongue. Suzette Haden Elgin (81) Nights at the Circus. Angela Carter (82) The Wasp Factory. Iain Banks 1985 (83) *Always Coming Home. Ursula K. Le Guin (84) **The Handmaid's Tale. Margaret Atwood (86) Pillar of the Sky. Cecilia Holland 1986 (88) *A Door into Ocean. Joan Slonczewski (89) *The Shore of Women. Pamela Sargent 1987 (90) Adulthood Rites. Octavia Butler (91) Beloved. Toni Morrison (92) Dawn. Octavia Butler (93) The Judas Rose. Suzette Haden Elgin (94) The Kindly Ones. Melissa Scott (95) Mindplayers. Pat Cadigan 1988 (96) Carmen Dog. Carol Emshwiller (97) *The Gate to Women's Country. Sheri S. Tepper (98) Sister Light, Sister Dark. Jane Yolen 1989 (99) Grass. Sheri S. Tepper (100) Imago. Octavia Butler 1990 (102) The Others. Margaret Wander Bonanno (103) Tehanu. Ursula K. Le Guin (104) The Y Chromosome. Leona Gom 1991 (105) The Beauty. Sheri S. Tepper (106) *He, She, and It / Body of Glass. Marge Piercy (107) Sarah Canary. Karen Joy Fowler (108) Synners. Pat Cadigan (109) White Queen. Gwyneth Jones (110) A Woman of the Iron People. Eleanor Arnason 1992 (111) Amazon. Barbara Walker (112) *China Mountain Zhang. Maureen F. McHugh (113) *Chroniques du pays des meres. Elisabeth Vonarburg (114) Red Mars. Kim Stanley Robinson 1993 (115) *Ammonite. Nicola Griffith (116) Coelestis. Paul Park (117) *The Fifth Sacred Thing. Starhawk 1994 (118) 'And Salome Danced'. Kelley Eskridge (119) *The Furies. Suzy McKee Charnas (120) Larque on the Wing. Nancy Springer (121) 'The Matter of Seggri'. Ursula K. Le Guin (122) *Trouble and Her Friends. Melissa Scott (123) Waking the Moon. Elizabeth Hand 1995 (124) The Memoirs of Elizabeth Frankenstein. Theodore Roszak (125) Shadow Man. Melissa Scott (126) Slow River. Nicola Griffith 1996 (127) The Fortunate Fall. Raphael Carter (128) Into the Forest. Jean Hegland (129) 'Mountain Ways'. Ursula K. Le Guin (130) Remnant Population. Elizabeth Moon (131) The Sparrow. Mary Doria Russell 1997 (133) *Black Wine. Candas Jane Dorsey (134) The Dazzle of Day. Molly Gloss (136) Kissing the Witch : Old Tales in New Skins. Emma Donoghue (137) 'Travels With the Snow Queen'. Kelly Link 1998 (138) Brown Girl in the Ring. Nalo Hopkinson (139) 'Congenital Agenesis of Gender Ideation'. Raphael Carter 1999 (141) *The Conquerer's Child. Suzy McKee Charnas 2000 (142) Ash: A Secret History. Mary Gentle (145) Wild Life. Molly Gloss ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:50:30 +0000 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Angela Barclay Subject: Petra's List Comments: To: feministsf@UIC.EDU Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Dear Petra: Wow- what a wonderful compilation of feminist fantastic works. I'll be saving that to my hard drive! I'm suspect you'll be inundated with suggestions for additions to your list and considered emailing you personally, but I wanted to run my suggestions by the rest of the group. Following are some of the books I've most enjoyed being exposed to as a member of this listserve: Women of Wonder Edited by Pamela Sargent (1975) A collection of short stories written between 1948 and 1973 by such greats as Bradley, Wilhelm, Le Guin, Russ and McIntyre The Gilda Stories by Jewelle Gomez (1991) The Moon and the Sun by Vonda McIntyre (1997) Hand of Prophecy by Severna Park (1998) Not of Woman Born Edited by Constance Ash (1999) Machine Sex by Candace Jane Dorsey (I can't find it to give you the pub. date as I've recently moved) It's a great compilation of feminist cyberpunk (which I believe is rare), and alternate relationship oriented SF. Anybody else read it and agree? I'm wondering if a novel of Tanith Lee's should be included. Her female characters are strong although I would admit they are often in stereotypical relationships. One exception may be The Silver Metal Lover (1981;1999) in which an adolescent girl finds self-understanding and self-acceptance (and learns how to deal with her jealous, manipulative mother) in the course of a romance with a robot. Anybody else agree? Disagree? Let us know when you finalize your list. Angela ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:24:24 +1100 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Deborah Biancotti Subject: Re: Petra's List Comments: To: feministsf-lit@UIC.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi all, Angela wrote: I'm wondering if a novel of Tanith Lee's should be included. Her female characters are strong although I would admit they are often in stereotypical relationships. One exception may be The Silver Metal Lover (1981;1999) in which an adolescent girl finds self-understanding and self-acceptance (and learns how to deal with her jealous, manipulative mother) in the course of a romance with a robot. Anybody else agree? Disagree? Thanks Petra & Angela - this list really is an interesting endeavour. With regards to Tanith Lee, I haven't read The Silver Metal Lover, but what about The Birthgrave? It shows a female character who learns to accept her own strengths (eg. "What he could break, I could bend"). She also learns how not to be a victim, & how she was largely victimising _herself_. I also found the theme of the goddess worship interesting - how the central character is so 'other', that she ends up being revered by strangers who don't understand what she is. Interesting, isn't it, how they react to her extreme beauty by putting her on a pedestal? After which, she travels by wearing a full face mask. Reminiscient of other self-enclosure/self-protective methods women have used. Anyhow, that's what I've been thinking.... Cheers, Deborah _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:29:57 EST Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Joy Martin Subject: Re: Important texts of feminist sf/utopia? Comments: To: feministsf-lit@uic.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you so much for this list. Now I have to find all the ones I haven't read.-Joy Martin ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:39:10 EST Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Joy Martin Subject: Re: Important texts of feminist sf/utopia? Comments: To: feministsf-lit@uic.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Question- #38, The Clewiston Test, - Is this the one where there is a virus that creates basically immortality if you survive it? The protagonist is a middleaged woman who fends off a CIA type while helping in distributing the virus? I've been trying to find out the name of the that book - which I read. I have part of it - I think, but not the whole novel anymore (I think it was originally a story which became a novel; that is, if this is the novel I'm thinking it is). If it's not this one, does anyone know the name of the one I'm talking about? The protagonist is writing a book on eagles which leads her to meeting the folks who've developed the virus. It's a fascinating novel about the political and moral questions involved, as well as her own integrity and personal choices.-Joy Martin ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:16:12 EST Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Joy Martin Subject: Re: Important texts of feminist sf/utopia? Comments: To: feministsf-lit@uic.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In looking through my bookshelves, I found a Women's Press anthology "Despatches from the Frontiers of the Female Mind', Jen Green & Sarah LeFanu, dated 1985 which includes several shortstories by authors of interest: Russ, Mitchison, Sheldon (Tiptree), Saxton, Gentle, Lee and others. Whether it should be included more than others on the list I can't say, and it's been ages since I read it, but in terms of giving people somewhere to look, it probably fills the bill. Also, re Josephine Saxton, I came across her book 'Queen of the States', which it has also been so long since I read I can't totally say where it fits or not, but it was also a Women's Press selection, and probably a good one. In terms of warrior women, an interesting 3 part series was The Tomoe Gozen saga, by Jessica Amanda Salmonson. Again my memory isn't the best but it's unusual because of its fantasy Japanese setting.Whether it's an 'important text', I can't say.-Joy Martin ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:34:43 +1100 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Maire Subject: Re: Important texts of feminist sf/utopia? Comments: To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joy, I have the Clewiston Test.. I havent read ityet, but I dont think its the one you are talking about. I will tell you what it says on the back.. Anne clewiston Symons, a giften young researcher, has isolated a blood serum that temporarily but completely supresses pain- without unconsciousness or any of the side effects of aonventional anasthetics. The large pharmaceutical company that employs her and Clark Symons, her husband and co-worker, has just been granted federal permissioni to proceed with tests on human subjects, when horrigying evidence appears that some of the test chimps have becmoe psychotic. Anne at this time is nearly immobilised at home by serious, painful injuries incurred in an automobilwe accident. this is the situation at the start of an engrossing nobel that puts the story of a disintegrating "perfect" marriage into the context of such contemporary issues as corporate power and politics, teh techniques and ethics of labarotary research, and the questionable reliability of scientific observation. Not suprisingly, some among the drug company's managemnet are prepared to ignore the disturbing evidence of the chimp's behaviour and to go ahead with the tests on humans. Soon, however, the belief gains currency that a human subject has already taken the drug. Although she is now recovering, and has in fact been told by her doctor that she may resume sexual relations, Anne continues to reject Clark's overtures as she begins to qustiont he basis on which their marriage and their work together has been built. After a particularly violent scene (percieved by Anee as attempted rape) and with the support of circumstantieal evidence, Clark and others suspect that she may have used the serum to relieve her intense pain, and that now, like the test animals, she is slipping into madness. The Clewiston test is at once a phychological thriller and an accurate and fscinating view into the world of scientific research. One might suspect as much from kate Wilhelm, well known for her science fiction. her she amply displays, as well, her ability to create subtly delineated and memorable characters faced with moral choices involving both their work and the most intimate reaches of their private lives. Phew! I feel like starting to read it now, after that! Sounds like a kind of amplified version of the , wife is angry with partner, he says she has PMS situation. Dont think its the one you read though, JOy Maire Hard SF- December disc. "Integral Trees" by Larry Niven http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hardsf Original Fantasy- Jan BOTM "ANubis Gates" by Tim Powers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/original_fantasy Soft SF- Jan BOTM "Dispossessed" by Ursula le Guin http://groups.yahoo.com/group/soft_sf > -----Original Message----- > From: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC > [mailto:feministsf-lit@UIC.EDU]On Behalf Of Joy Martin > Sent: Monday, 31 December 2001 9:39 AM > To: feministsf-lit@UIC.EDU > Subject: Re: [*FSF-L*] Important texts of feminist sf/utopia? > > > Question- #38, The Clewiston Test, - Is this the one where there > is a virus > that creates basically immortality if you survive it? The protagonist is a > middleaged woman who fends off a CIA type while helping in > distributing the > virus? I've been trying to find out the name of the that book - > which I read. > I have part of it - I think, but not the whole novel anymore (I > think it was > originally a story which became a novel; that is, if this is the novel I'm > thinking it is). If it's not this one, does anyone know the name > of the one > I'm talking about? The protagonist is writing a book on eagles which leads > her to meeting the folks who've developed the virus. It's a > fascinating novel > about the political and moral questions involved, as well as her own > integrity and personal choices.-Joy Martin ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 03:22:06 GMT Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: "Jeremy H. Griffith" Organization: Omni Systems, Inc. Subject: Re: Important texts of feminist sf/utopia? Comments: To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:39:10 EST, Joy Martin wrote: >Question- #38, The Clewiston Test, - Is this the one where there >is a virus that creates basically immortality if you survive it? No, that's Kate Wilhelm's _Welcome, Chaos_, ISBN 0-425-07585-0, 1983. It's an expansion of her earlier novel "The Winter Beach", which appeared in the September 1981 issue of _Redbook_, and in her _Listen, Listen_ collection of four novellas (ISBN 0-425-07327-0). Quite a gripping novel, as I recall... still here in my "keepers" collection. Some of the issues are similar to those raised by Nancy Kress in her "sleepless" trilogy (_Beggars in Spain_ et seq.), which, come to think of it, might also be a candidate for Petra's list... --Jeremy H. Griffith http://www.omsys.com/jeremy/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 23:14:33 -0600 Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Diane Severson Subject: Re: BDG: War for the Oaks & Very Far Away from Anywhere Else Comments: To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Janice and anyone else interested, I'm going to do a little back-pedaling here, because I guess corny wasn't exactly the word I would use now to describe _Very Far Away..._. However, I'm not sure what would be. Perhaps I should say that I was expecting this book to be somehow fantastic or science fictiony but it wasn't at all (I bought it used and found it in the SFF section!). So in that respect I was a bit disappointed when it turned out to be a young adult romance. I enjoyed it quite a bit, but I also found it to be rather preachy in a way. I do agree with the basic sentiments though, and I appreciate Janice's clear description of what goes on in the book. I think I will read it again - and this time I will most likely be more open-minded about the subject matter. LeGuin is far and away my favorite author, but I have so many of her books ahead of me to read, yippee! Just got copies of The Telling, Tales from Earthsea and the Other Wind, plus Rocannon and the Lathe of Heaven are waiting for me at home.... :-) Diane ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 13:31:39 EST Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Joy Martin Subject: Re: Important texts of feminist sf/utopia? Comments: To: feministsf-lit@uic.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/30/01 7:45:13 PM Central Standard Time, mairen@BIGPOND.COM writes: << Joy, I have the Clewiston Test.. I havent read ityet, but I dont think its the one you are talking about. I will tell you what it says on the back.. Anne clewiston Symons, a giften young researcher, has isolated a blood serum >> You're right, this isn't the book I'm thinking about .-Joy ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 13:31:41 EST Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Joy Martin Subject: Re: Important texts of feminist sf/utopia? Comments: To: feministsf-lit@uic.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/30/01 9:23:16 PM Central Standard Time, jeremy@OMSYS.COM writes: << No, that's Kate Wilhelm's _Welcome, Chaos_, ISBN 0-425-07585-0, 1983. It's an expansion of her earlier novel "The Winter Beach", >> Yes, this sounds right. And yes, it's a gripping and excellent book, although I thought the first section was the best. I'm not sure, but I think it might be a better selection for that list than the Clewiston Test.-Joy ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 15:28:46 EST Reply-To: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC Sender: Feminist SF/Fantasy and Utopia Literature ON TOPIC From: Joy Martin Subject: New Years Eve, Midnight and Jupiter Comments: To: feministsf@listserv.uic.edu Comments: cc: feministsf-lit@uic.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The largest planet in the solar system will be directly overhead at midnight on New Year's Eve, the brightest thing in the sky besides the moon, in the Northern Hemisphere. "If you're in NYC watching the apple drop,you'll be able to see Jupiter above the apple". Jupiter will be directly opposite the sun as seen from Earth, meaning it will be brightly illuminated. The almost full moon will trail Jupiter to the east, "bathing the landscape in brilliant cosmic light". Jupiter will rise in the east around sunset and be high in the southern sky around midnight. The last time the gaseous planet with the large red spot was in opposition and overhead at midnight on New Year's Eve was 1752, and the next time will be in 2084.- St. Louis Post Dispatch, 12/31/01 So get out and look. This will be a rare sight indeed. Happy New Year!-Joy Martin