From LISTSERV@listserv.uic.edu Fri Aug 25 10:56:26 2000 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 12:53:33 -0500 From: "L-Soft list server at University of Illinois at Chicago (1.8d)" To: Laura Quilter Subject: File: "FEMINISTSF LOG9911B" ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 15:38:01 -0600 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Todd Mason Subject: FW: World Fantasy Con Awards Comments: To: FEMINISTSF-LIT@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU Comments: cc: Multiple recipients of list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" -----Original Message----- From: James Hinsey [mailto:SamuraiX47@aol.com] Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 8:42 AM To: Multiple recipients of list SF-LIT Subject: World Fantasy Con Awards Special Award - Non Professional Richard Chizmar for Cemetery Dance Publications Special Award - Professional Jim Turner for Golden Gryphon Press Artist Charles Vess Anthology Dreaming Down -Under, edited by Jack Dann and Janeen Webb (HarperCollins Australia/Voyager) Collection Karen Joy Fowler, Black Glass (Henry Holt) Short Fiction Kelly Link, "The Specialist's Hat" (Event Horizon November 15) Novella Ian MacLeod, "The Summer Isles" (Asimov's Science Fiction Magazine, Oct/Nov) Novel Louise Erdrich, "The Antelope Wife" (HarperFlamingo) Life Achievement Hugh B. Cave ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:26:36 -0500 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: CMUNSON Subject: Re: Upcoming organized discussions Comments: To: Jennifer Krauel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there another list? Is that why this list has been so quiet in recent months? Chuck0 ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: [*FSFFU*] Upcoming organized discussions Author: Jennifer Krauel at Internet Date: 11/7/99 7:47 PM For anyone subscribing to this list and not the sister on-topic list, here are the upcoming organized discussions scheduled for the next six months. Please join us! Nov 1999 The Mistress of Spices, by Chitra Banerjee Divakaruni Dec 1999 Flying Cups and Saucers, eds. Debbie Notkin et al. Jan 2000 Briar Rose, by Jane Yolen Feb 2000 Dawn, by Octavia Butler March 2000 The Dazzle of Day, by Molly Gloss April 2000 Remnant Population, by Elizabeth Moon For more information about our organized discussions please see: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Comet/1304/index.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:24:07 -0600 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Chris Shaffer Subject: Re: Upcoming organized discussions In-Reply-To: <0018A281.1205@aaas.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed The FEMINISTSF-LIT list is a counterpart to this list, with the proviso that all discussions will be on-topic. To subscribe, send the message "subscribe feministsf-lit Susan B. Anthony" to (listserv@uic.edu) - substituting your name for Susan B. Anthony's of course. Please review the welcome message for restrictions on posting to FEMINISTSF-LIT. Chris shaffer@uic.edu At 12:26 PM 11/11/99 , you wrote: > Is there another list? Is that why this list has been so quiet in > recent months? > > Chuck0 > > >______________________________ Reply Separator >_________________________________ >Subject: [*FSFFU*] Upcoming organized discussions >Author: Jennifer Krauel at Internet >Date: 11/7/99 7:47 PM > > >For anyone subscribing to this list and not the sister on-topic list, here >are the upcoming organized discussions scheduled for the next six >months. Please join us! > >Nov 1999 The Mistress of Spices, by Chitra Banerjee Divakaruni >Dec 1999 Flying Cups and Saucers, eds. Debbie Notkin et al. >Jan 2000 Briar Rose, by Jane Yolen >Feb 2000 Dawn, by Octavia Butler >March 2000 The Dazzle of Day, by Molly Gloss >April 2000 Remnant Population, by Elizabeth Moon > >For more information about our organized discussions please see: >http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Comet/1304/index.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:50:09 -0500 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: "McCorry, Tiffany J." Subject: Re: Upcoming organized discussions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain How do I get off this list? tjm -----Original Message----- From: CMUNSON [mailto:CMUNSON@AAAS.ORG] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 1:27 PM To: FEMINISTSF@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU Subject: Re: [*FSFFU*] Upcoming organized discussions Is there another list? Is that why this list has been so quiet in recent months? Chuck0 ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: [*FSFFU*] Upcoming organized discussions Author: Jennifer Krauel at Internet Date: 11/7/99 7:47 PM For anyone subscribing to this list and not the sister on-topic list, here are the upcoming organized discussions scheduled for the next six months. Please join us! Nov 1999 The Mistress of Spices, by Chitra Banerjee Divakaruni Dec 1999 Flying Cups and Saucers, eds. Debbie Notkin et al. Jan 2000 Briar Rose, by Jane Yolen Feb 2000 Dawn, by Octavia Butler March 2000 The Dazzle of Day, by Molly Gloss April 2000 Remnant Population, by Elizabeth Moon For more information about our organized discussions please see: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Comet/1304/index.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:50:55 -0500 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: "McCorry, Tiffany J." Subject: Re: Upcoming organized discussions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain How do I get off this list? tjm -----Original Message----- From: Chris Shaffer [mailto:shaffer@UIC.EDU] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 2:24 PM To: FEMINISTSF@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU Subject: Re: [*FSFFU*] Upcoming organized discussions The FEMINISTSF-LIT list is a counterpart to this list, with the proviso that all discussions will be on-topic. To subscribe, send the message "subscribe feministsf-lit Susan B. Anthony" to (listserv@uic.edu) - substituting your name for Susan B. Anthony's of course. Please review the welcome message for restrictions on posting to FEMINISTSF-LIT. Chris shaffer@uic.edu At 12:26 PM 11/11/99 , you wrote: > Is there another list? Is that why this list has been so quiet in > recent months? > > Chuck0 > > >______________________________ Reply Separator >_________________________________ >Subject: [*FSFFU*] Upcoming organized discussions >Author: Jennifer Krauel at Internet >Date: 11/7/99 7:47 PM > > >For anyone subscribing to this list and not the sister on-topic list, here >are the upcoming organized discussions scheduled for the next six >months. Please join us! > >Nov 1999 The Mistress of Spices, by Chitra Banerjee Divakaruni >Dec 1999 Flying Cups and Saucers, eds. Debbie Notkin et al. >Jan 2000 Briar Rose, by Jane Yolen >Feb 2000 Dawn, by Octavia Butler >March 2000 The Dazzle of Day, by Molly Gloss >April 2000 Remnant Population, by Elizabeth Moon > >For more information about our organized discussions please see: >http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Comet/1304/index.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:32:30 -0600 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Chris Shaffer Subject: Re: Upcoming organized discussions In-Reply-To: <47345192FFF6D111B16F006094B9077155838F@exchange.plcpt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I've removed Tiffany J. McCorry from the list. No further response is required. ----- ANGER OR HATE CAN BE A USEFUL MOTIVATING FORCE --Jenny Holzer _Truisms_ Chris Shaffer http://www.uic.edu/~shaffer/ shaffer@uic.edu AIM:ChrisShaff ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 07:41:38 -0800 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Steve Swartz Subject: Re: Upcoming organized discussions In-Reply-To: <47345192FFF6D111B16F006094B9077155838F@exchange.plcpt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed To unsubscribe, mail a message to: listserv@listserv.uic.edu and in the body of the message type: unsubscribe feministsf At 06:50 11/12/1999 , you wrote: > How do I get off this list? > tjm > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Shaffer >[mailto:shaffer@UIC.EDU] > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 2:24 >PM > To: FEMINISTSF@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU > Subject: Re: [*FSFFU*] Upcoming >organized discussions > > The FEMINISTSF-LIT list is a counterpart >to this list, with the proviso > that all discussions will be on-topic. >To subscribe, send the message > "subscribe feministsf-lit Susan B. >Anthony" to (listserv@uic.edu) - > substituting your name for Susan B. >Anthony's of course. > > Please review the welcome message for >restrictions on posting to > FEMINISTSF-LIT. > > Chris > shaffer@uic.edu > > At 12:26 PM 11/11/99 , you wrote: > > Is there another list? Is that >why this list has been so quiet in > > recent months? > > > > Chuck0 > > > > > >______________________________ Reply >Separator > >_________________________________ > >Subject: [*FSFFU*] Upcoming organized >discussions > >Author: Jennifer Krauel > at Internet > >Date: 11/7/99 7:47 PM > > > > > >For anyone subscribing to this list and >not the sister on-topic list, here > >are the upcoming organized discussions >scheduled for the next six > >months. Please join us! > > > >Nov 1999 The Mistress of Spices, >by Chitra Banerjee Divakaruni > >Dec 1999 Flying Cups and >Saucers, eds. Debbie Notkin et al. > >Jan 2000 Briar Rose, by Jane >Yolen > >Feb 2000 Dawn, by Octavia Butler > >March 2000 The Dazzle of Day, by >Molly Gloss > >April 2000 Remnant Population, by >Elizabeth Moon > > > >For more information about our >organized discussions please see: > > >http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Comet/1304/index.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 13:37:46 -0600 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Todd Mason Subject: Fritz Leiber's CONJURE WIFE and other work. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" All three of Leiber's horror novels have interestingly paranoid plots, moreso than the form requires. CONJURE WIFE, as Dennis notes, takes the tack that all men are essentially oblivious to all women's magical abilities. Leiber was profeminist; he knew exactly what childish fears he was exploiting (his own as much as anyone's) as he spun his tale wherein the condescending professor husband forces his wife to give up her activities (this is a spoiler only of the events of the first page or two), and they must deal with the Consequences. Leiber's understanding of sexual politics is at least as acute as Albee's. YOU'RE ALL ALONE (initially issued in book form in a tampered-with text as THE SINFUL ONES, and reissued in one 1981? edition with the editor's attempts at salacious passages rewritten by Leiber under that title) plays with the notion that only a few of us are truly alive, the rest caught in an automaton-world and going through clockwork motions...and among those few are superpredators, out to ensure that they are the only ones awake (MATRIX fans can recognize a certain similarity)...it was originally published in FANTASTIC ADVENTURES a few issues before or after Sturgeon's THE DREAMING JEWELS. OUR LADY OF DARKNESS is Leiber's last novel per se (the last Fafhrd/Grey Mouser book followed, but it was linked short fiction), and deals with an odd sort of haunting as well as Leiber's love of his adopted city, San Francisco. A paperback edition of both CONJURE WIFE and OUR LADY OF DARKNESS has been available from Tor in the last five years; I hope it's still available. -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Fischer [mailto:dfischer@laedu.lalc.k12.ca.us] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 1:32 AM To: Multiple recipients of list SF-LIT Subject: Re: Leiber's CONJURE WIFE Conjure Wife is a novel and tells a rollicking good story if you can accept the book's central premise, that all women are witches (or at least have the latent powers to be one). In the book, a wife has been helping her husband succeed in his professorial career, but her husband is a skeptic who insists she discard her beliefs in superstitions, which consequently leaves him open to supernatural attack from other professor's wives.... Leiber does a great job limning college politics, though he doesn't take it as far as Edward Albee. For what it's worth, the book has been adapted at least three times as a film, the best version being BURN, WITCH BURN (not the Merritt novel) aka NIGHT OF THE EAGLE in England. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:40:57 -0600 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Todd Mason Subject: FW: Literature Abuse: America's Hidden Problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" -----Original Message----- From: Susan H. Simko [mailto:shsimko@MAIL.DUKE.EDU] Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 2:19 PM To: SCIENCEFICTION-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU Subject: Literature Abuse: America's Hidden Problem Thought all of you might enjoy something I just received from an sf writer. He did not write this nor does he know who did as the attribution was lost before it got to him. Susan shsimko@mail.duke.edu LITERATURE ABUSE: AMERICA'S HIDDEN PROBLEM Once a relatively rare disorder, Literature Abuse, or LA, has risen to new levels due to the accessibility of higher education and increased college enrollment since the end of the Second World War. The number of literature abusers is currently at record levels. SOCIAL COSTS OF LITERARY ABUSE Abusers become withdrawn, uninterested in society or normal relationships. They fantasize, creating alternative worlds to occupy, to the neglect of friends and family. In severe cases they develop bad posture from reading in awkward positions or carrying heavy book bags. In the worst instances, they become cranky reference librarians in small towns. Excessive reading during pregnancy is perhaps the number one cause of moral deformity among the children of English professors, teachers of English and creative writing. Known as Fetal Fiction Syndrome, this disease also leaves its victims prone to a lifetime of nearsightedness, daydreaming and emotional instability. HEREDITY It has been established that heredity plays a considerable role in determining whether a person will become an abuser of literature. Most abusers have at least one parent who abused literature, often beginning at an early age and progressing into adulthood. Many spouses of an abuser become abusers themselves. OTHER PREDISPOSING FACTORS Fathers or mothers who are English teachers, professors, or heavy fiction readers; parents who do not encourage children to play games, participate in healthy sports, or watch television in the evening. PREVENTION Pre-marital screening and counseling, referral to adoption agencies in order to break the chain of abuse. English teachers in particular should seek partners active in other fields. Children should be encouraged to seek physical activity, and to avoid isolation and morbid introspection. Self-test for literature abuse How many of these apply to you? 1. I have read fiction when I was depressed, or to cheer myself up. 2. I have gone on reading binges of an entire book or more in a day. 3. I read rapidly, often 'gulping' chapters. 3. I have sometimes read early in the morning, or before work. 4. I have hidden books in different places to sneak a chapter without being seen. 5. Sometimes I avoid friends or family obligations in order to read novels. 6. Sometimes I re-write film or television dialog as the characters speak. 7. I am unable to enjoy myself with others unless there is a book nearby. 8. At a party, I will often slip off unnoticed to read. 9. Reading has made me seek haunts and companions which I would otherwise avoid. 10. I have neglected personal hygiene or household chores until I had finished a novel. 12. I have spent money meant for necessities on books instead. 13. I have attempted to check out more library books than permitted. 14. Most of my friends are heavy fiction readers. 15. I have sometimes passed out from a night of heavy reading. 16. I have suffered 'blackouts' or memory loss from a bout of reading. 17. I have wept, become angry or irrational because of something I read. 18. I have sometimes wished I did not read so much. 19. Sometimes I think my fiction reading is out of control. If you answered 'yes' to three or more of these questions, you may be a literature abuser. Affirmative responses to five or more indicates a serious problem. DECLINE AND FALL: THE ENGLISH MAJOR Within the sordid world of literature abuse, the lowest circle belongs to those sufferers who have thrown their lives and hopes away to study literature in our colleges. Parents should look for signs that their children are taking the wrong path-don't expect your teenager to approach you and say, 'I can't stop reading Spencer.' By the time you visit her dorm room and find the secret stash of the Paris Review, it may already be too late. What to do if you suspect your child is becoming an English major: 1. Talk to your child in a loving way. Show your concern. Let her know you won't abandon her- but that you aren't spending a hundred grand to put her through Stanford so she can clerk at Waldenbooks, either. But remember that she may not be able to make a decision without help; perhaps she has just finished Madame Bovary and is dying of arsenic poisoning. 2. Face the issue: Tell her what you know, and how: 'I found this book in your purse. How long has this been going on?' Ask the hard question- 'Who is this Count Vronsky?' 3. Show her another way. Move the television set into her room. Praise her brother, the engineer. Introduce her to frat boys. 4. Do what you have to do. Tear up her library card. Make her stop signing her letters as 'Emma.' Force her to take a math class, or minor in Spanish. Transfer her to a Florida college. You may be dealing with a life-threatening problem if one or more of the following applies: * She can tell you how and when Thomas Chatterton died. * She names one or more of her cats after a Romantic poet. * Next to her bed is a picture of: Lord Byron, Virginia Woolf, Faulkner, or any scene from the Lake District. ---------------------------------------- Most important, remember, you are not alone. To seek help for yourself or someone you love, contact the nearest chapter of the American Literature Abuse Society, or look under ALAS in your telephone directory. "Good books are sense and language woven together, and the weaving matters greatly." ---John Graves -- Lingua mortua sola lingua bona est. ***** To leave the ScienceFiction-L list, send the message SIGNOFF SCIENCEFICTION-L to the server: listserv@listserv.indiana.edu. Questions to: mlperkin@indiana.edu or shsimko@mail.duke.edu *****