From LISTSERV@listserv.uic.edu Fri Aug 25 10:56:23 2000 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 12:53:34 -0500 From: "L-Soft list server at University of Illinois at Chicago (1.8d)" To: Laura Quilter Subject: File: "FEMINISTSF LOG9911D" ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 23:35:29 -0800 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jennifer=20Bell?= Subject: FEMINISTSF@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Why do I keep getting this sign off message --- gsherif wrote: > Sign off FEMINISTSF@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 11:04:11 -0500 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Helen Thompson Subject: Re: FEMINISTSF@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU In-Reply-To: <19991122073529.6598.rocketmail@web1406.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Because people don't realize the signoff message needs to go to listserv itself, not feministsf. Date sent: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 23:35:29 -0800 Send reply to: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Jennifer Bell Subject: [*FSFFU*] FEMINISTSF@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU To: FEMINISTSF@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU > Why do I keep getting this sign off message > > --- gsherif wrote: > > Sign off FEMINISTSF@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ----------- 19107715/icq ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:28:47 -0800 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jennifer=20Bell?= Subject: Re: FEMINISTSF@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Oh good I thought itmight be a hint to leave *grin* --- Helen Thompson wrote: > Because people don't realize the signoff message > needs to go to > listserv itself, not feministsf. > > > > Date sent: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 23:35:29 > -0800 > Send reply to: "For discussion of feminist > SF, fantastic & utopian literature" > > From: Jennifer Bell > > Subject: [*FSFFU*] > FEMINISTSF@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU > To: FEMINISTSF@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU > > > Why do I keep getting this sign off message > > > > --- gsherif wrote: > > > Sign off FEMINISTSF@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > ----------- > 19107715/icq > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:45:18 -0600 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Todd Mason Subject: Can anyone recommend an sf webzine worth reading? Comments: To: Multiple recipients of list , "mlperkin@indiana.edu" Comments: cc: Multiple recipients of list SF-LIT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Just wondering...EVENT HORIZON and the Budrys-story-only TOMORROW are the only pro-quality ones I've investigated...not counting HMS BEAGLE. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:51:16 0100 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Petra Mayerhofer Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend an sf webzine worth reading? In-Reply-To: <874BCFAAE5A4D211BA020008C70D100502B34A67@tvgradpo1.tvguide.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT On 23 Nov 99, Todd Mason wrote: > Just wondering...EVENT HORIZON and the Budrys-story-only TOMORROW are > the only pro-quality ones I've investigated...not counting HMS BEAGLE. IMO there are some good webzines with SF Reviews and other information out there (Science Fiction Weekly, SF Site, SF Revu, ...) but I suppose you mean webzines with actual stories. I am rather sceptical about online publishing. While it is certainly so that a lot of good stuff is not published because publishers do not recognize the merit of it, magazine editors provide a certain filter without which the normal reader is overwhelmed. And good work (here editing a magazine) should be paid well (not many have the opportunity to do it in their free time) and who is ready to pay for an online magazine? Either you read it online (awkward and bad for the eyes) or you print it out. The latter is rather expensive and does not provide as good quality (paper, layout) as a printed magazine. If the readers are not ready to pay for the online magazines that leaves sponsors/advertising to finance it. Not that I want to discourage any unpublished or published author to offer stories on their websites. I am often very happy to find them, but mostly when somebody explicitly recommended it and I don't have any access to them otherwise. Any comments? Todd, how does EVENT HORIZON function? What stories are published there and how is it financed? 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Schultz Chris Shaffer http://www.uic.edu/~shaffer/ shaffer@uic.edu AIM:ChrisShaff ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:28:40 +0100 Reply-To: thomasg@ifi.uio.no Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Thomas Gramstad Subject: Re: Sign off In-Reply-To: Chris Shaffer 's message of Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:59:53 -0600 > To avoid problems, I've unsubscribed her. No reply is required. > > For the rest of you, please note that you can unsubscribe from > this list by sending the message "unsubscribe feministsf" to > "listserv@uic.edu". Please do not send list commands to the > entire list. ...and note that messages to the listserver must be in the plain text format (e.g., HTML coding must be turned off -- and it should always be turned off when posting to the list anyway. (She had it on.) For instructions about how to turn HTML coding of messages off, see http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/listowners/html-off.htm or http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1236/nomime.html .) Regards, Thomas Gramstad thomasg@ifi.uio.no "You can re-create yourself, every second of your life." -- Xena, _Forgiven_ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:44:24 -0600 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Todd Mason Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend an sf webzine worth reading?: Mayerhofer Comments: cc: "mlperkin@indiana.edu" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" EVENT HORIZON the e-zine (as opposed to Event Horizon the business which sponsors it--all can be accessed at www.eventhorizon.com and probably should) is the new stomping ground for Ellen Datlow and some of the other folk who did OMNI ONLINE while that entity was still with us. It posts new fiction, including a Kelly Link story that has been reprinted in both the Windling-Datlow YEAR'S BEST F&H and in Stephen Jones's BEST NEW HORROR, and Kim Newman's excellent "Andy Warhol's DRACULA," among much else, including intentionally polemical nonfiction and a comments board. Actually, depending how you're printing something out (and how selective your are with your printing), it can be a little less expensive to print out just the text one wants from an e-zine...and the paper (depending on what you feed your printer!) would be a bit better than most fiction magazines' (I often find clay-coated "slick" paper harder to read than uncoated, myself, since the slick paper reflects so much light...and the inks they use on HARPER'S and some other slicks often smear on the paper if touched). Yep, looking for other ezines with fiction worth the look. I've been pointed toward EIDOLON and NOVA EXPRESS, as well, but don't know if either is now publishing fiction electronically. -----Original Message----- From: Petra Mayerhofer [ mailto:mayerhof@USF.UNI-KASSEL.DE ] Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 8:51 AM To: FEMINISTSF@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU On 23 Nov 99, Todd Mason wrote: > Just wondering...EVENT HORIZON and the Budrys-story-only TOMORROW are > the only pro-quality ones I've investigated...not counting HMS BEAGLE. IMO there are some good webzines with SF Reviews and other information out there (Science Fiction Weekly, SF Site, SF Revu, ...) but I suppose you mean webzines with actual stories. I am rather sceptical about online publishing. While it is certainly so that a lot of good stuff is not published because publishers do not recognize the merit of it, magazine editors provide a certain filter without which the normal reader is overwhelmed. And good work (here editing a magazine) should be paid well (not many have the opportunity to do it in their free time) and who is ready to pay for an online magazine? Either you read it online (awkward and bad for the eyes) or you print it out. The latter is rather expensive and does not provide as good quality (paper, layout) as a printed magazine. If the readers are not ready to pay for the online magazines that leaves sponsors/advertising to finance it. Not that I want to discourage any unpublished or published author to offer stories on their websites. I am often very happy to find them, but mostly when somebody explicitly recommended it and I don't have any access to them otherwise. Any comments? Todd, how does EVENT HORIZON function? What stories are published there and how is it financed? ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 16:28:05 +1300 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Jenny Rankine Subject: Rosemary Kirstein Comments: To: FSFFU-Lit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone heard whether Rosemary Kirstein has produced a sequel to her first two books - The Steerswoman and The Outskirter's Secret? They were released as Del Rey Discoveries but I can't find any other mention of her on their site. I've just re-read them (for probably the third time) and enjoyed the quality of her writing all over again. Her two protagonists are brave, resourceful, intelligent and adaptable women and I love the twists she puts in the plots. Jenny Rankine ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:18:00 -0800 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Laura Quilter Subject: Fwd: a favor--- Comments: To: feministsf@uic.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 19:31:33 -0500 >From: Suzanne Feldman >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) >To: lquilter@igc.apc.org >Subject: a favor--- > >Hi Laura-- > >I used to be on the Feminist SF list serve and left to be on the Lit >discussion list serve which grew out of it. However, I have an >announcement to post on the FSF list, and I wonder if you, as list >owner, could do this for me. > >My next book, The Annunciate, is out, and I'd like folks to know (many >of the folks on the FEMINISTSF list asked to be informed when the book >was in stores). The message I posted on the Lit serve is below....thank >you so much for your help, and if there's any problem, please let me >know. > >Yours, >Suzanne Feldman >(Severna Park) > > >Hi folks--- > >I'm absolutely thrilled to be able to tell you that my next novel, -The >Annunciate- is now OUT in bookstores. For those of you who've already >seen it and raved about the cover, thank you! For those who haven't >seen it, check out Amazon... > > >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0380977370/o/qid=942968894/sr=8-1/00 >2-6941373-9658635 > >Reviews have been excellent so far, from the gay and lesbian presses, to > >a wonderful review on SFSite.com and the NY Blade. > >I would love to hear what you think of the book. I'm very, very proud of > >it. And now back to our regularly scheduled discussion ;> > >yours, >Suzanne Feldman >(Severna Park) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 09:21:21 EST Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Svenja Derichs Subject: does anyone know? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hey out there, first time for me to try out the list actively... itīs gonna be a quiz, so be challenged to answer... iīm looking for information about a short story i read long ago. does anyone recognize the sf-story (written in the 50ies) named "Chaos Coordinated" ? within the plot the author uses a poem by lewis carroll that deactivates a computer system (well, i canīt remember that much, one reason for finding the text...). can somebody give me the name or a possible editorial information?