From LISTSERV@listserv.uic.edu Fri Aug 25 10:56:13 2000 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 12:53:35 -0500 From: "L-Soft list server at University of Illinois at Chicago (1.8d)" To: Laura Quilter Subject: File: "FEMINISTSF LOG9912A" ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 17:31:21 +0100 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Lassnig Subject: Butler's SURVIVOR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, I was wondering whether any of you could point me to a place where I could obtain Octavia Butler's SURVIVOR. It is out of print, amazon.com cannot get a hold on it, and I'm desperate because I need it for my dissertation! Thank you very much in advance, Ines ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:54:31 -0400 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Debbie Notkin Subject: Re: Butler's SURVIVOR In-Reply-To: <009301bf3ce2$ae977460$2f6811d4@custom-pc.telekabel.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 5:31 PM +0100 12/2/99, Lassnig wrote: >Hello all, > >I was wondering whether any of you could point me to a place where I could >obtain Octavia Butler's SURVIVOR. It is out of print, amazon.com cannot get >a hold on it, and I'm desperate because I need it for my dissertation! Butler hates it and won't allow it to be reprinted, making it very rare indeed. Try your local library and interlibrary loan (Doubleday sold a lot of books to libraries in that period.) Good luck! -- Debbie Notkin kith@slip.net ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:06:31 -0800 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: "Candioglos, Sandy" Subject: Re: Butler's SURVIVOR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" I agree; my local public library has one copy; I'd check it out for you, but it looks like you live a ways away from Portland, Oregon! ILL or your own local libraries are probably your best bet. Your school library probably has an ILL program set up with other universities; one of them probably has it. -Sandy > -----Original Message----- > From: Debbie Notkin [mailto:kith@SLIP.NET] > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 7:55 AM > To: FEMINISTSF@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU > Subject: Re: [*FSFFU*] Butler's SURVIVOR > > > At 5:31 PM +0100 12/2/99, Lassnig wrote: > >Hello all, > > > >I was wondering whether any of you could point me to a place > where I could > >obtain Octavia Butler's SURVIVOR. It is out of print, > amazon.com cannot get > >a hold on it, and I'm desperate because I need it for my > dissertation! > > Butler hates it and won't allow it to be reprinted, making it > very rare > indeed. Try your local library and interlibrary loan > (Doubleday sold a lot > of books to libraries in that period.) > > Good luck! > > > -- > Debbie Notkin > kith@slip.net > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 14:12:58 EST Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Vivian Lee Subject: Re: Butler's SURVIVOR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not having read it, I'm curious; why does Butler hate it? Vivian ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 12:58:49 -0700 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Catweasel Subject: Re: Butler's SURVIVOR In-Reply-To: <009301bf3ce2$ae977460$2f6811d4@custom-pc.telekabel.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At 12/02/99 09:31:21 MST the Forward Command Post of catweasel.org intercepted a communique from Lassnig : > I was wondering whether any of you could point me to a place where I could > obtain Octavia Butler's SURVIVOR. It is out of print, amazon.com cannot get > a hold on it, and I'm desperate because I need it for my dissertation! If the libraries fail you, try http://www.usedbooks.com We have found them very helpful in the past, turning up long-out-of-print gems. Also worth a look are bibliofind, probably at www.bibliofind.com. If not, a search will turn them up. Good hunting. Trust me, I'm a doctor. Catweasel http://www.catweasel.org/ http://www.enchantedspirit.com/ Sometimes I wake up grumpy; other times I let her sleep. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 14:54:20 -0600 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Todd Mason Subject: audio drama stuff Comments: To: "sciencefiction-l@listserv.indiana.edu" , "srcdilbert@juno.com" , "alektra@aol.com" , "jecedit@aol.com" Comments: cc: Fred Ollinger MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > THE MOTION OF LIGHT IN A VACUUM written by James Patrick Kelly and > other audio/radio drama on The Dominion...www.scifi.com? > At the website of the often regrettable Skiffy Channel, one finds "the Seeing Ear Theater": archived for RealAudio at that page a number of author readings (alas, often dispirited and/or poorly recorded, though occasionally nonetheless interesting--even when, as with Kit Reed's, the prefatory comments are better than the text as read). > More ambitious are a series of commissioned and appropriated > contemporary dramas, such as the Kelly item, which involves the recursive > life of a geekish fellow stranded in a disabled spaceship (the sexual > content and occasionally loud sound effects make this good for earphones, > at least in the presence of the easily-annoyed). > Along with these are a healthy selection of radio plays largely from the later days of widespread network radio drama, the '40s and '50s: sf anthologies DIMENSION X and its successor X MINUS 1, the Arch Oboler version of LIGHTS OUT and LO founder Wyllis Cooper's later QUIET, PLEASE horror anthos, the often excellent SUSPENSE and ESCAPE series, and a smattering of others including some superhero and "mysterious stranger" episodes. > The tendency is to reach for the most sfnal materials, with some > straight horror, fantasy and odd suspense thrown in; the X shows and > QUIET, PLEASE are the most reliably good among the selections, although > the most recent episode posted from X MINUS 1, a adaptation of a Robert > Sheckley story by the X producer who later went on to write extensively > for Irwin Allen's skiffy shows (danger, sf fan!), is pretty inane in the > manner of a lot of minor Sheckley/GALAXY magazine/late '50s "comic > inferno" stories, the kind of thing that led Damon Knight and James Blish > to develop the concept of the "idiot plot"--the story that can only occur > if every character is an idiot. Joe Bob says check it out. > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 22:12:22 -0800 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: April Goodwin Smith Subject: Re: Butler's SURVIVOR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This is another good resource for out-of-print books. The price will vary, but the more rare, the more ouch. April. http://www.abebooks.com/ --- Lassnig wrote: > Hello all, > > I was wondering whether any of you could point me to > a place where I could > obtain Octavia Butler's SURVIVOR. It is out of > print, amazon.com cannot get > a hold on it, and I'm desperate because I need it > for my dissertation! > > Thank you very much in advance, > > Ines > ===== "Things that try to look like things often do look more like things than things. Well-known fact." Esmerelda Weatherwax. 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Cheers, Ines ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 19:01:43 +0100 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Lassnig Subject: Butler's SURVIVOR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you all again for your help! I've contacted all of the services you suggested but unfortunately none delivers to Europe. Could the person who mentioned that her local library has got a copy - I think it was Sandy? - be so kind and give me the name of the library, maybe an email address, so I could try my luck with them? Greetings, Ines ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:13:58 -0600 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Todd Mason Subject: Re: Mars Polar mission/ George Romero/Clive Barker interview: TALK OF THE NATION on NPR Comments: To: Horror in Film and Literature Comments: cc: "sciencefiction-l@listserv.indiana.edu" , Multiple recipients of list , Fred Ollinger MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yes, Jeff, that's Monday's TALK OF THE NATION, the NPR show (www.npr.org), or at least one hour of it. As I write, the current episode of the show is discussing the Mars Polar mission, about to meet up with the planet within the hour...seek out your local National Public Radio station if interested, or the site. -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Beres [mailto:beres@TCNJ.EDU] Subject: George Romero/Clive Barker interview I found a great Realaudio interview with George Romero and Clive Barker in the new Darkecho newsletter.