From LISTSERV@listserv.uic.edu Fri Jan 26 13:40:57 2001 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:59:03 -0600 From: "L-Soft list server at UIC (1.8d)" To: Laura Quilter Subject: File: "FEMINISTSF LOG0010B" ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:25:03 -0400 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: "Meether, Mikele" Comments: To: "marbask@aol.com" , "mmcv218@cs.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" I'm sending this out with the hope that we can make a difference * Petition to United Nations Dear Friends: This is something that we as women and essentially as human beings need to support - I don't know if this is going to help but take 3 minutes out of your life to do your part. Madhu, the government of Afghanistan, is waging a war upon women. Since the Taliban took power in 1996, women have had to wear burqua and have been beaten and stoned in public for not having the proper attire, even if this means simply not having the mesh covering in front of their eyes. One woman was beaten to death by an angry mob of fundamentalists for accidentally exposing her arm while she was driving. Another was stoned to death for trying to leave the country with a man that was not a relative. Women are not allowed to work or even go out in public without a male relative; professional women such as professors, translators, doctors, lawyers, artists and writers have been forced from their jobs and stuffed into their homes. Homes where a woman is present must have their windows painted so that she can never be seen by outsiders. They must wear silent shoes so that they are never heard. Women live in fear of their lives for the slightest misbehavior. Because they cannot work, those without male relatives or husbands are either starving to death or begging on the street, even if they hold Ph.D.s. Depression is becoming so widespread that it has reached emergency levels. There is no way in such an extreme Islamic society to know the suicide rate with certainty, but relief workers are estimating that the suicide rate among women, who cannot find proper medication and treatment for severe depression and would rather take their lives than live in such conditions, has increased significantly. There are almost no medical facilities available for women. At one of the rare hospitals for women, a reporter found still, nearly lifeless bodies lying motionless on top of beds, wrapped in their burqua, unwilling to speak, eat, or do anything, but slowly wasting away. Others have gone mad and were seen crouched in corners, perpetually rocking or crying, most of them in fear. One doctor is considering, when what little medication that is left finally runs out, leaving these women in front of the president's residence as a form of protest. It is at the point where the term "human rights violation" has become an understatement. Husbands have the power of life and death over their women relatives, especially their wives, but an angry mob has just as much right to stone or beat a woman, often to death, for exposing an inch of flesh or offending them in the slightest way. Women enjoyed relative freedom, to work, dress generally as they wanted, and drive and appear in public alone until only 1996. The rapidity of this transition is the main reason for the depression and suicide; women who were once educators or doctors or simply used to basic human freedoms are now severely restricted and treated as subhuman in the name of right-wing fundamentalist Islam. It is not their tradition or 'culture,' but it is alien to them, and it is extreme even for those cultures where fundamentalism is the rule. Everyone has a right to a tolerable human existence, even if they are women in a Muslim country. If we can threaten military force in Kosovo in the name of human rights for the sake of ethnic Albanians, citizens of the world can certainly express peaceful outrage at the oppression, murder and injustice committed against women by the Taliban. STATEMENT: In signing this, we agree that the current treatment of women in Afghanistan is completely UNACCEPTABLE and deserves action by the United Nations and that the current situation overseas will not be tolerated. Women's Rights is not a small issue anywhere, and it is UNACCEPTABLE for women in 2000 to be treated as subhuman and so much as property. Equality and human decency is a RIGHT not a freedom, whether one lives in Afghanistan or elsewhere. > 1) Suzanne Dathe, Grenoble, France > 2) Laurence COMPARAT, Grenoble,France > 3) Philippe MOTTE, Grenoble, France > 4) Jok FERRAND, Mont St Martin, France > 5) Emmanuelle PIGNOL, St Martin d'Heres, FRANCE > 6) Marie GAUTHIER, Grenoble, FRANCE > 7) Laurent VESCALO, Grenoble,FRANCE > 8) Mathieu MOY, St Egreve, FRANCE > 9) Bernard BLANCHET, Mont St Martin, FRANCE > >10) Tassadite FAVRIE, Grenoble, FRANCE > >11) Loic GODARD, St Ismier, FRANCE > >12) Benedicte PASCAL, Grenoble, FRANCE > >13) Khedaidja BENATIA, Grenoble, FRANCE > >14) Marie-Therese LLORET, Grenoble,FRANCE > >15) Benoit THEAU, Poitiers, FRANCE > >16) Bruno CONSTANTIN, Poitiers, FRANCE > >17) Christian COGNARD, Poitiers, FRANCE > >18) Robert GARDETTE, Paris, FRANCE > >19) Claude CHEVILLARD, Montpellier, FRANCE > >20) gilles FREISS, Montpellier, FRANCE > >21) Patrick AUGEREAU, Montpellier, FRANCE. > >22) Jean IMBERT, Marseille, FRANCE > >23) Jean-Claude MURAT, Toulouse, France > >24) Anna BASSOLS, Barcelona, Spain > >25) Mireia DUNACH, Barcelona, Spain > >26) Michel VILLAZ, Grenoble, France > >27) Pages Frederique, Dijon, France > >28) Rodolphe FISCHMEISTER, Chatenay-Malabry, France > >29) Francois BOUTEAU, Paris, France > >30) Patrick PETER, Paris, France > >31) Lorenza RADICI, Paris, France > >32) Monika Siegenthaler, Bern, Switzerland > >33) Mark Philp, Glasgow, Scotland > >34) Tomas Andersson, Stockholm, Sweden > >35) Jonas Eriksson, Stockholm, Sweden > >36) Karin Eriksson, Stockholm, Sweden > >37) Ake Ljung, Stockholm, Sweden > >38) Carina Sedlmayer, Stockholm, Sweden > >39) Rebecca Uddman, Stockholm, Sweden > >40) Lena Skog, Stockholm, Sweden > >41) Micael Folke, Stockholm, Sweden > >42) Britt-Marie Folke, Stockholm, Sweden > >43) Birgitta Schuberth, Stockholm, Sweden > >44) Lena Dahl, Stockholm, Sweden > >45) Ebba Karlsson, Stockholm, Sweden > >46) Jessica Carlsson, Vaxjo, Sweden > >47) Sara Blomquist, Vaxjo, Sweden > >48) Magdalena Fosseus, Vaxjo, Sweden > >49) Charlotta Langner, Goteborg,Sweden > >50) Andrea Egedal, Goteborg, Sweden > >51) Lena Persson, Stockholm, Sweden > >52) Magnus Linder, Umea ,Sweden > >53) Petra Olofsson, Umea, Sweden > >54) Caroline Evenbom, Vaxjo, Sweden > >55) Asa Pettersson, Grimsas, Sweden > >56) Jessica Bjork, Grimsas, Sweden > >57) Linda Ahlbom Goteborg, Sweden > >58) Jenny Forsman, Boras, Sweden > >59) Nina Gunnarson, Kinna, Sweden > >60) Andrew Harrison, New Zealand > >61) Bryre Murphy, New Zealand > >62) Claire Lugton, New Zealand > >63) Sarah Thornton, New Zealand > >64) Rachel Eade, New Zealand > >65) Magnus Hjert, London, UK > >67) Madeleine Stamvik, Hurley, UK > >68) Susanne Nowlan, Vermont, USA > >69) Lotta Svenby, Malmoe, Sweden > >70) Adina Giselsson, Malmoe, Sweden > >71) Anders Kullman, Stockholm, Sweden > >72) Rebecka Swane, Stockholm,Sweden > >73) Jens Venge, Stockholm, Sweden > >74) Catharina Ekdahl, Stockholm, Sweden > >75) Nina Fylkegard, Stockholm, Sweden > >76) Therese Stedman, Malmoe, Sweden > >77) Jannica Lund, Stockholm, Sweden > >78) Douglas Bratt > >79) Mats Lofstrom, Stockholm, Sweden > >80) Li Lindstrom, Sweden > >81) Ursula Mueller, Sweden > >82) Marianne Komstadius, Stockholm, Sweden > >83) Peter Thyselius, Stockholm, Sweden > >84) Gonzalo Oviedo, Quito, Ecuador > >85) Amalia Romeo, Gland, Switzerland > >86) Margarita Restrepo, Gland, Switzerland > >87) Eliane Ruster, Crans p.C., Switzerland > >88) Jennifer Bischoff-Elder, Hong Kong > >89)Azita Lashgari, Beirut, Lebanon > >90)Khashayar Ostovany, New York, USA > >91)Lisa L Miller, Reno NV > >92)Danielle Avazian, Los Angeles, CA > >93) Sara Risher, Los Angeles, Ca. > >94) Melanie London, New York, NY > >95) Susan Brownstein , Los Angeles, CA > >96) Steven Raspa, San Francisco, CA > >97) Margot Duane, Ross, CA > >98) Natasha Darnall, Los Angeles, CA > >99) Candace Brower, Evanston, IL > >100) James Kjelland, Evanston, IL > >101) Michael Jampole, Beach Park, IL, USA > >102) Diane Willis, Wilmette, IL, USA > >103) Sharri Russell, Roanoke, VA, USA > >104) Faye Cooley, Roanoke, VA, USA > >105) Celeste Thompson, Round Rock, TX, USA > >106) Sherry Stang, Pflugerville, TX, USA > >107) Amy J. Singer, Pflugerville, TX USA > >108) Milissa Bowen, Austin, TX USA > >109) Michelle Jozwiak, Brenham, TX USA > >110) Mary Orsted, College Station, TX USA > >111) Janet Gardner, Dallas, TX USA > >112) Marilyn Hollingsworth, Dallas, TX USA > >113) Nancy Shamblin, Garland. TX USA > >114) K. M. Mullen, Houston, TX - USA > >115) Noreen Tolman, Houston, Texas - USA > >116) Judy Bechtel, Merced, CA - USA > >117) Delores Iliff, FL, USA > >118) Nicole Propper, FL, USA > >119) Bonnie LaChance, FL, USA > >120) JoAnn Blades, FL, USA > >121) Pam Blades, FL, USA > >122) Louise Campbell, FL, USA > >123) Marcy DeSanto, FL, USA > >124) Donald Blades, FL,USA > >125) Tom LaChance, FL, USA > >126) Craig Huff, GA, USA > >127) Karen Huff, FL, USA > >128) Heather Huff, GA, USA > >129) Franki Silcox GA, USA > >130) Karin Horn, TX, USA > >131) Lara Nelson, OH, USA > >132) Beth Pilous, OH, USA > >133) Sarah Clare, OH, USA > >134) Carla Roth, OH, USA > >135) Jenny Zukowski, MI, USA > >136) Amanda Silic, MI, USA > >137) Heather Gilroy, MD, USA > >138) Kat Carrion, MD USA > >139) Michelle Stryjewski, MD USA > >140) Elizabeth H Stevens, OR, USA > >141) Alice Stevens, OR, USA > >142) Tyler R. Monzie/ OR/ USA > >143) Allea Martin, OR, USA > >145) Jose Tancuan, Or, USA > >146) Akia Woods, OR USA > >147) Bernie Gardent, OR, USA > >148) Leslie Hall, OR, USA > >149) Susan J. Woods, OR, USA > >150 [Cegelnik, Dixie] , OR, USA > >151 Susan Amburgey, OR, USA > >152 Cindy Harboldt, OR, USA > >153 Richard Rehm, CA, USA > >154. Lyn Lindsay, CA, USA > >155. Alma Gilligan, CA, USA > >156. Maureen Lechwar, CA, USA > >157. Leslie Morales, CA, USA > >158. Marci Marcantonio, CA, USA > >159. Jill Haskins, CA, USA > >160. Jacqueline Gouly, CA, USA > >161. Janet Talbott, CA, USA > >162. Manjula Subbiah, CA, USA > >163. Susan Duncan, CA, USA > >164. Blanca E. Reynoso, CA, USA > >165. Ruth C. Reynoso, Ca, USA > >166. Phyllis H. Rawlins, Anaheim, CA, USA > >167. Lori Rice, Naples, Italy > >168. Mina Giovannitti, Las Vegas, USA (Turkey) > >169. Fred Giovannitti, Las Vegas, USA > >170. Noelle Brunelle, NV, USA > >171. Kimberly A. Karl, NV, USA > >172. Alana Segall, NV, USA > >173. Mark Leonard, NV, USA > >174. Nancy Leonard, NV, USA > >175. Troy Leonard, NV, USA > >176. Robert Mock AZ. USA > >177. Patty Flanigan AZ, USA > >178. William A Towne III, AZ, USA > >179. Ellen J. Matheson, Los Angeles, CA, USA > >180. Theresa Leets, Los Angeles, CA, USA > >181. G. Ahou Soomekh, Los Angeles, CA, USA > >182. Ronith Herman, El Paso, TX > >183. Lauren R. Stein, PA, USA > >184. Michelle F. King, PA, USA > >185. Jere' Webb, CA, USA > >186. Kim Anderson, CA USA > >187. Kirsten Hinsdale, VA, USA > >188. Ronald David, Wash, DC > >189. Cheryl Barnes, Buffalo, NY > >190. Dawne David, Wash DC, USA > >191. Madhu Dutta New Delhi, India > >192. Madhu Sen New Delhi, India > >193. Alokparna, VA USA > >194. Anjali Dasgupta, MS USA > >195. Tilottama Brahmachari, NJ, USA > >196. Chandrima Datta Ray, MS, USA > >197. Jaydip Datta Ray, MS, USA > >198. MarIa Florencia Vidano, MA, USA > >199. Matteo Dufour,Genova, Italia > >200. Francois Dufour, Lugano, Switzerland > >201. Francesco Ricasoli, Firenze, Italia > >202. Lena Larsson, Stockholm, Sweden > >203. Katarina Wigle, Stockholm, Sweden > >204. Petter ?berg, Stockholm, Sweden > >205. Per-Anders Stensson, Uppsala, Sweden > >206. Malin MArtensson, Uppsala, Sweden > >207. Maria Carlstedt > >208. Eli Cathrine Wilhelmsen, Uppsala, Sweden > >209. AnnaMaria Billing, Uppsala, Sweden > >210. Christina Molnar, Uppsala, Sweden > >211. Christina Bergmark, Stockholm, Sweden > >212. Katarina Mimmi SpAng, Stockholm, Sweden > >213. M"rta Terese M-rnvik, Stockholm, Sweden > >214. Sofi HAkansson, Malm-, Sweden > >215. ?sa Grogarn Sol, G-teborg, Sweden > >216. Anders Jonsson, G-teborg, Sweden > >217. ?sa Ericsson, G-teborg, Sweden > >218. Elna F leide Selle, Bergen, Norway > >219. Brynjar Stautland, B mlo, Norway > >220. Berte Figenschou Amundsen, Trondheim, Norway > >221. Marte M rkved-Romstad, Oslo, Norway > >222. Kjersti Forbregd, Trondheim, Norway > >123. Inger Margrethe Torgersen, Oslo, Norway > >224. Lisbeth Skogstrand, Oslo, Norway > >225. Ragnhild Skogstrand, Stokmarknes, Norway > >226. Hanne Husaas, Lier, Norway > >227. Helena Wikstr-m, Lund, Sweden > >228. Kimberly Rapport, Ca, USA > >229. Kristie Bennett, San Jose, CA, USA > >230. Debi Di Bias, Santa Monica, CA, USA > >231. Whitney Allen, San Francisco, CA USA > >232. Kaaren Shalom, Los Angeles, CA USA > >233. Gretchen German, Los Angeles, CA USA > >234. Susan Peretz, Los Angeles, CA USA > >235. Caryn West, Los Angeles, CA. USA > >236. Heather Juergensen, Los Angeles, CA USA > >237. Camryn Manheim. Los Angeles, CA USA > >238. Julianne Williams, Los Angeles, CA USA > >239. Jenna Elfman, Los Angeles, CA USA > >240. Rachel Smith, Los Angeles, CA USA > >241. Matthew Ian Glass, Los Angeles, CA USA > >242. Bret R. Howey, Los Angeles, CA USA > >243. Tammy Terrenzi, Los Angeles, CA USA > >244. Jocelyn Jones Watkins. Santa Monica, Calif, USA > >245. Irene Dirmann, Clearwater Florida USA > >246. Robin Karfo, Santa Monica, CA, USA > >247. Monica Larissa Hershaft, Los Angeles, CA USA > >248. Adrian Ursu. Los Angeles, CA USA > >249. Tim Capaldi, Detroit, MI USA > >250. Marisa Ozburn, Chicago, IL > >251. Kristina Boos, Detroit, MI USA > >252. Anne Monday, Detroit, MI USA > >253. Tiffany Reese, Detroit, MI USA > >254. Kim Huston, Detroit, MI USA > >255. Denise LaPlante, Detroit, MI USA > >256. Piper Paton Smith, Roseville, MI USA > >257. Yvette Beebe, Northville, MI USA > >258. Jody Harris, Redford, MI USA > >259. Pat Kovach, Brighton, MI USA > >260. Karyn Anderson, Singapore > >261. Steve Schafer, MI USA > >262. Sue Schafer, MI USA > >263. Elizabeth T. LaBelle MI USA > >264. Robert A. LaBelle MI USA > >265. Faye M. Woodley, CO USA > >266. Dan Woodley CO, USA > >267. Dani Watkins CO, USA > >268. Donna Royster CO, USA > >269. Chuck Pitte CO, USA > >270. Twila Eberly CO, USA > >271. Sandy Reavey CO, USA > >272. Carolee Laughton, CO, USA > >273. Jeffrey Adams, CO, USA > >274. Susan Conder, CO, USA > >275. Kathryn Haley, CO, USA > >276. Gloria Haley, CO, USA > >277. Samatra Doyle, CO, USA > >278. Janet Neary, CA, USA > >279. Kelly Metzler, CA, USA > >280. Elizabeth Anderson, MN, USA > >281. Rinda West, IL, USA > >282. Richard Kroth, IL, USA > >283. Heather Driscoll, Chicago, IL, USA > >284.Mariluz Adler, Venice,CA,USA > >285. Marisol Adler, Venice,CA, USA > >286. Petra Matouschek, Pasadena, CA, USA > >287. Alina Wolff, Vienna, AUSTRIA > >288. Angelika Brudniak, Vienna, AUSTRIA > >289. Marie-Theres Holler, Vienna, AUSTRIA > >290. Barbara Peretti, Salzburg, AUSTRIA > >291. Susanne Gordon-Oberhofer, Salzburg, Austria > >292. Karin Pernegger, Nantes, France > >293. David Michael Clarke, Nantes, France > >294. Heidi Nikolaisen, Bergen, Norway > >295. Lise Johansen, Tromso, Norway > >296. Jeff Rechenbach, Cleveland, Ohio USA > >297. Susan C. Pisha, Portland, OR USA > >298. Ms. Charlie M. Clint, Portland, OR USA > >299. Beverly Wilson Thornburg, Denver, CO USA > >300. Sue Lowe, Austin, TX USA > >301. Cheyenne Weaver, Austin, TX USA > >302. Christine Walsh, Seattle, WA USA > >303. Olivia Vlcek, Seattle, WA USA > >304. Jenny Sayward, Seattle, WA USA > >305. Diane Ste. Marie, WA USA > >306. Jane Langenes, Seattle, WA USA > >307. Sharon Chambers, Seattle, WA USA > >308. Jackie Jackman, Ill, USA > >309. Marcia Patience, Chicago, IL USA > >310. K. Heaton, Kansas, USA > >311. T. L. Essig, Lees Summit, MO USA > >312. Erica Bourgeois, Vancouver, BC Canada > >313. Nicci Bergunder, Vancouver, BC Canada\ > >314. Chief Kim Baird, Tsawwassen, BC Canada > >315. Leah George-Wilson, North Vancouver, BC Canada > >316. Stefany Mathias, Vancouver, BC Canada > >317. David DeLeary, Toronto, ON, Canada > >318. Debra Goldblatt, Toronto, ON, CANADA > >319. Kelly Lamb, Toronto, ON, Canada > >320. Carla Roblin Pryce, Toronto, ON, Canada > >321. Theresa Taylor, Toronto, ON, Canada > >322. Leah Taylor Roy, Boston, MA, USA > >323. Jan-Marie Gundacker, Bradley Beach, NJ, USA > >324. Jane Wyker, Rye, NY US > >325. Barbara Berdon, NY, USA > >326. Carol Rickard, Longboat Key, FL, USA > >327. Sally C. Mahofski, Sarasota, FL, USA > >328. Katharine Graham, Manchester, MA, USA > >329. Thaddeus Beal, Somerville, MA USA > 330. Vreni Blatter, Olten, Switzerland > 331. Christoph Blatter, Olten, Switzerland > 332. Marcel Hermans, Amsterdam, Netherlands > 333. Cornelia Blatter, Amsterdam, Netherlands > 334. Shauna Church, Brooklyn, NY, USA > 335. Jill Enfield, NYC, NY, USA > 336. Barbara Bell, NYC, NY, USA > 337. Betsy Chory, Los Angeles, CA USA > 338. Dody Dorn, Los Angeles, CA USA > 339. Linda Whittlesey, Missoula, MT USA > 340. Barbara Loos, Los Angeles, CA, USA > 341. Janet Batchler, Pacific Palisades, CA, USA > 342. Lee Batchler, Pacific Palisades, CA, USA > 343. Patrick Coleman, South Pasadena, CA, USA > 344. Tracey E. Ellis, Los Angeles, CA, USA > 345. David Eshaghpour, Pacific Palisades, CA, USA 346. Jonathan Schreiber, Los Angeles, CA, USA 347. Dana S.L. Wexler, Los Angeles, CA, USA 348. Irene S. Lieberman, Los Angeles, CA, USA 349. Renee Cronenwalt, Beverly Hills, Ca.USA 350. Cyndi Vodhanel, Los Angeles, CA. USA 351. Cammie Holt Schmidt, Orange County, USA 352. Susan Ullis, University Place, WA, USA 353. Ann Ewan, University Place, WA, USA 354. Lindsay Ewan, Williamstown, MA, USA 355. Nora Kenworthy, Williamstown, MA, USA 356. Victoria Rickard, Spokane, WA, USA 357. Mary Shipps, Castle Rock, CO, USA 358. Carol Paul, Castle Rock, CO, USA 359. Lynn See, Cape Coral, FL, USA 360. Mikele R. Meether, Cape Coral, FL, USA PLEASE COPY this email on to a new message, sign the bottom and forward it to everyone on your distribution lists. If you receive this list with more than 600 names on it, please e-mail a copy of it to: sarabande@brandeis.edu > Even if you decide not to sign, please be considerate and do not kill the petition. Thank you. Mikele R. Meether Academic Advisor College of Arts & Sciences Florida Gulf Coast University 590-7204 -------------------------------------------------- This is the FEMINISTSF listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF Contact FEMINISTSF-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:58:46 -0500 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Roxanne Korpal Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It is a very nice petition. I think I'll throw it up on a webpage and discuss it in one of my favorite forums. Just curious, is there an underground movement by the women? Are they fighting? Maybe by women in neighboring countries? The U.S. had the Underground railroad. Maybe something similar? Roxanne http://www.ilstu.edu/~rmkorpa "Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure." -- Marianne Williamson On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Meether, Mikele wrote: > I'm sending this out with the hope that we can make a difference > * Petition to United Nations -------------------------------------------------- This is the FEMINISTSF listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF Contact FEMINISTSF-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 21:59:47 EDT Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Christine Ethier Subject: female chosen ones MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Since I bought this subject up weeks ago, I figured I should tell you about Andre Norton's new book which is about a female chosen one. The summary is from the Science Fiction Book Club (www.sfbc.com). The book is either aviable at bookstores now, or soon will be. It's proably in hardcover. _To the King a Daughter_ by Andre Norton and Sasha Miller (anyone heard of Miller?) "Fanasty fans rejoice - this first book in a stirring new epic cycle begins a grand and glorious saga of the land of Rendel, a realm in conflict for centuries, with the great houses of Oak, Ash, Yew, and Rowan vying for supremacy and survival. An age old prophesy is written that claims a daughter of Ash will rise, wielding great powere and great danger, but now Clan Ash has nearly withered away, beset by internal bickering and gleeful bloodletting of the other houses. But even as the last remnants of the Ash were put to the sword, one infant escaped, tasting her first breath in time with her mother's last. This daugther of tragedy bears not only her mother's proud Ash legacy, but that of her father, the Oak King, for it was thier illicit union that gave the girl life. Hidden away in the swamps by the witch-healer Zazar {if that who is one the cover with the girl, Zazar looks like a big old stone frog} , the chld now known as Ashen, is just beginning to feel the awakening powers that will allow her to find her destiny, and reclaim her birthright. Yet there is another hier, raised in privilege and ambition, who lusts for the throne and is determined to seize it, by any means." And that's all I know about it. Except on the cover Ashen, I presume, is dressed pretty sensabliy. She has a slit in her skirt but it only goes up to her knee, and he boots just stop short of the knee. Chris -------------------------------------------------- This is the FEMINISTSF listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF Contact FEMINISTSF-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:15:17 -0400 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Amy Harlib Subject: Re: female chosen ones MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sasha Miller wrote one excellent otherworld fantasy novel a few years ago called Ladylord---strong heroine/protagonist struggles to claim her inheritance in a male dominant Asiatic-type cultural setting with some very intriguing magic and some disturbing depictions of sexual relationships which I thought were relevant to portraying the oppressiveness of the society and were not gratuitous. Amy (who hasn't read her copy of To the King a Daughter) yet! > Since I bought this subject up weeks ago, I figured I should tell you about > Andre Norton's new book which is about a female chosen one. The summary is > from the Science Fiction Book Club (www.sfbc.com). The book is either > aviable at bookstores now, or soon will be. It's proably in hardcover. > > _To the King a Daughter_ by Andre Norton and Sasha Miller (anyone heard of > Miller?) > > "Fanasty fans rejoice - this first book in a stirring new epic cycle begins a > grand and glorious saga of the land of Rendel, a realm in conflict for > centuries, with the great houses of Oak, Ash, Yew, and Rowan vying for > supremacy and survival. An age old prophesy is written that claims a > daughter of Ash will rise, wielding great powere and great danger, but now > Clan Ash has nearly withered away, beset by internal bickering and gleeful > bloodletting of the other houses. > But even as the last remnants of the Ash were put to the sword, one > infant escaped, tasting her first breath in time with her mother's last. > This daugther of tragedy bears not only her mother's proud Ash legacy, but > that of her father, the Oak King, for it was thier illicit union that gave > the girl life. Hidden away in the swamps by the witch-healer Zazar {if that > who is one the cover with the girl, Zazar looks like a big old stone frog} , > the chld now known as Ashen, is just beginning to feel the awakening powers > that will allow her to find her destiny, and reclaim her birthright. Yet > there is another hier, raised in privilege and ambition, who lusts for the > throne and is determined to seize it, by any means." > > And that's all I know about it. Except on the cover Ashen, I presume, is > dressed pretty sensabliy. She has a slit in her skirt but it only goes up to > her knee, and he boots just stop short of the knee. > > Chris > > -------------------------------------------------- > This is the FEMINISTSF listserve, intended only for > discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To > unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to > LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: > unsubscribe FEMINISTSF > > Contact FEMINISTSF-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. > -------------------------------------------------- This is the FEMINISTSF listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF Contact FEMINISTSF-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 13:02:08 -0500 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Roxanne Korpal Subject: Re: female chosen ones In-Reply-To: <06ad01c0346f$ff1738a0$48034f0c@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Read that book. It was lovely. A bit thick at times, but if you're into the Eastern methods of myth, heirarchy, family and interesting concepts of honor, you'll find it wonderfully insightful. I had to urge myself to continue reading at times, simply because so much information filed into my poor brain at once wasn't working too well, but the story wouldn't let me go, even if the detail was overwhelming. Not a bad read at all. Wonderful in fact. Rox On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Amy Harlib wrote: > Sasha Miller wrote one excellent otherworld fantasy novel a few years ago > called Ladylord---strong heroine/protagonist struggles to claim her > inheritance in a male dominant Asiatic-type cultural setting with some very > intriguing magic and some disturbing depictions of sexual relationships > which I thought were relevant to portraying the oppressiveness of the > society and were not gratuitous. Amy (who hasn't > read her copy of To the King a Daughter) yet! -------------------------------------------------- This is the FEMINISTSF listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF Contact FEMINISTSF-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 21:50:05 EDT Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Christine Ethier Subject: Re: female chosen ones MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/13/2000 1:15:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, aharlib@WORLDNET.ATT.NET writes: << Sasha Miller wrote one excellent otherworld fantasy novel a few years ago called Ladylord---strong heroine/protagonist struggles to claim her inheritance in a male dominant Asiatic-type cultural setting with some very intriguing magic and some disturbing depictions of sexual relationships which I thought were relevant to portraying the oppressiveness of the society and were not gratuitous. >> Thanks for the infro!! Chris -------------------------------------------------- This is the FEMINISTSF listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF Contact FEMINISTSF-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems.