From LISTSERV@listserv.uic.edu Fri Jan 26 13:40:11 2001 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:59:05 -0600 From: "L-Soft list server at UIC (1.8d)" To: Laura Quilter Subject: File: "FEMINISTSF LOG0010E" ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 21:41:47 +1000 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Erika Maria Lacey Subject: book suggestions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello I just joined not too long ago, and saw the request for book suggestions ... last year an interesting non-fiction collection was released. Women of Other Worlds: Excursions Through Science Fiction and Feminism, edited by Helen Merrick Tess Williams, University of Western Australia, 1999, ISBN 1-876268-32-8 It has essays from a number of well-known Australians in the SF industry. bests Erika -- Erika Maria Lacey | righ@uq.net.au | http://owlrigh.cjb.net/ "I have often regretted my speech, but never my silence." - Xenocrates (396-314 B.C.E.) -------------------------------------------------- This is the FEMINISTSF listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF Contact FEMINISTSF-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 22:49:35 GMT Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Kate Dall Subject: Re: book suggestions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I'm still kind of blown away by the idea of a university with funding - such creatures no longer exist here in Australia. Lucky you, Misha. Anyway, back when I used to be a femsf type postgrad, trying to find copies of the journal _Science Fiction Studies_ was always quite difficult. I would suggest trying to get a complete set. I'm not sure who publishes it, but it may be Canadian. Kate. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -------------------------------------------------- This is the FEMINISTSF listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF Contact FEMINISTSF-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:39:46 -0600 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Todd Mason Subject: FW: Query: transgender sf Comments: cc: "aline@mail.ua.pt" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I've been trying to remember anything specifically useful by such prominent transgendered SF folk as Rachel Pollack, Jessica Amanda Salmonson, Janine Stine, or (perhaps a bit peripherally) Pat Califia...and if such first-thought items as THE LEFT HAND OF DARKNESS are useful in this context... -----Original Message----- From: Aline Ferreira [mailto:aline@mail.ua.pt] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 11:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Query Dear all, A student of mine is writing an MA thesis about transvestism, bodily changes and gender as performance. She is looking at Angela Carter's Passion of New Eve (man into woman) and Rose Tremain's Sacred Country (woman into man) but she would like to include one or two other texts. I am having some difficulty coming up with new titles. Can somebody help? Thanks in advance! Aline *************************************************************** Maria Aline Seabra Ferreira Departamento de Línguas e Culturas Universidade de Aveiro 3810-153 Aveiro Portugal Tel: +351-234-426854 Fax: +351-234-426854 aline@mail.ua.pt -------------------------------------------------- This is the FEMINISTSF listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF Contact FEMINISTSF-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:45:04 -0600 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Todd Mason Subject: Re: Query: transgender Comments: cc: "aline@mail.ua.pt" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Actually, HIDDEN: A GENDER, the play by Kate Bornstein, may be worth a look. -----Original Message----- From: Todd Mason Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 11:40 AM To: FEMINISTSF@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU Cc: 'aline@mail.ua.pt' Subject: FW: Query: transgender sf I've been trying to remember anything specifically useful by such prominent transgendered SF folk as Rachel Pollack, Jessica Amanda Salmonson, Janine Stine, or (perhaps a bit peripherally) Pat Califia...and if such first-thought items as THE LEFT HAND OF DARKNESS are useful in this context... -----Original Message----- From: Aline Ferreira [mailto:aline@mail.ua.pt] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 11:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Query Dear all, A student of mine is writing an MA thesis about transvestism, bodily changes and gender as performance. She is looking at Angela Carter's Passion of New Eve (man into woman) and Rose Tremain's Sacred Country (woman into man) but she would like to include one or two other texts. I am having some difficulty coming up with new titles. Can somebody help? Thanks in advance! Aline -------------------------------------------------- This is the FEMINISTSF listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF Contact FEMINISTSF-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:21:29 -0800 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Debbie Notkin Subject: Re: FW: Query: transgender sf In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed First and foremost, Raphael Carter's short story (1999 Tiptree winner) "Congenital Agenesis of Gender Ideation," in Starlight 2, edited by Patrick Nielsen Hayden. Anything set in John Varley's Eight Worlds covers gender changing, but "Options" is perhaps the short story that deals with it most directly (I _think_ it's in THE BARBIE MURDERS, also known as PICNIC ON NEARSIDE). There's plenty more; when my brain wakes up, I'll add a couple more titles. -- Debbie Notkin kith@slip.net -------------------------------------------------- This is the FEMINISTSF listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF Contact FEMINISTSF-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 17:17:01 GMT Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Lesley Hall Subject: Re: FW: Query: transgender sf Raphael Carter The Fortunate Fall springs to mind, in terms of authorship. Melissa Scott's Shadow Man is perhaps something to be considered in this context. Lesley Hall lesleyah@primex.co.uk > I've been trying to remember anything specifically useful by such prominent > transgendered SF folk as Rachel Pollack, Jessica Amanda Salmonson, Janine > Stine, or (perhaps a bit peripherally) Pat Califia...and if such > first-thought items as THE LEFT HAND OF DARKNESS are useful in this > context... -------------------------------------------------- This is the FEMINISTSF listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF Contact FEMINISTSF-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 11:35:02 -0600 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Todd Mason Subject: Re: FW: Query: transgender sf: Notkin Comments: cc: Aline Ferreira MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I certainly should've thought of Varley! Haven't read the Carter yet. I think "Options" is in BLUE CHAMPAGNE, but certainly all the stories in THE PERSISTENCE OF VISION, THE BARBIE MURDERS, and onward bear scrutiny in this context. -----Original Message----- From: Debbie Notkin [mailto:kith@SLIP.NET] First and foremost, Raphael Carter's short story (1999 Tiptree winner) "Congenital Agenesis of Gender Ideation," in Starlight 2, edited by Patrick Nielsen Hayden. Anything set in John Varley's Eight Worlds covers gender changing, but "Options" is perhaps the short story that deals with it most directly (I _think_ it's in THE BARBIE MURDERS, also known as PICNIC ON NEARSIDE). There's plenty more; when my brain wakes up, I'll add a couple more titles. -------------------------------------------------- This is the FEMINISTSF listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF Contact FEMINISTSF-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 11:37:22 -0600 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Todd Mason Subject: Re: FW: Query: transgender sf: Hall Comments: To: Aline Ferreira MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Melissa Scott, whose work I've read a bit of, and, obviously, Raphael Carter await me. On the other list, Samuel Delany's TRITON has also been mentioned... -----Original Message----- From: Lesley Hall [mailto:lesleyah@PRIMEX.CO.UK] Raphael Carter The Fortunate Fall springs to mind, in terms of authorship. Melissa Scott's Shadow Man is perhaps something to be considered in this context. lesleyah@primex.co.uk -------------------------------------------------- This is the FEMINISTSF listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF Contact FEMINISTSF-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:02:38 -0500 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Misha Bernard Subject: Re: FW: Query: transgender sf In-Reply-To: <200010311717.RAA23501@dns0.primexplus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I heartily second Scott's _Shadow Man_. Esp. considering the focus on transvestism/crossdressing. Since there are 5 Concord sexes but only 2 recognized (and performed) Haran genders, there's quite a bit about clothing (both signallying sex/gender and off-world/traditionalist/modernist stances). misha On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Lesley Hall wrote: > Raphael Carter The Fortunate Fall springs to mind, in > terms of authorship. > Melissa Scott's Shadow Man is perhaps something to be > considered in this context. > > Lesley Hall > lesleyah@primex.co.uk > > I've been trying to remember anything specifically > useful by such prominent > > transgendered SF folk as Rachel Pollack, Jessica > Amanda Salmonson, Janine > > Stine, or (perhaps a bit peripherally) Pat > Califia...and if such > > first-thought items as THE LEFT HAND OF DARKNESS are > useful in this > > context... > > -------------------------------------------------- > This is the FEMINISTSF listserve, intended only for > discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To > unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to > LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: > unsubscribe FEMINISTSF > > Contact FEMINISTSF-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. > Misha Bernard Cultural Studies PhD student mbernar1@gmu.edu George Mason University ------------------------- -mmmm! tastes like a scratch world! but it's Bishop Berkeley's Cosmo Mix!- Ursula K. Le Guin "World Making" (1981) -------------------------------------------------- This is the FEMINISTSF listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF Contact FEMINISTSF-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:11:18 -0500 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Rose Reith Subject: Re: Query: transgender In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" What about the novel, _Commitment Hour_ by James Alan Gardner. It's not a truly serious text, but it does touch on some of the issues. >Actually, HIDDEN: A GENDER, the play by Kate Bornstein, may be worth a look. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Todd Mason >Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 11:40 AM >To: FEMINISTSF@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU >Cc: 'aline@mail.ua.pt' >Subject: FW: Query: transgender sf > > >I've been trying to remember anything specifically useful by such prominent >transgendered SF folk as Rachel Pollack, Jessica Amanda Salmonson, Janine >Stine, or (perhaps a bit peripherally) Pat Califia...and if such >first-thought items as THE LEFT HAND OF DARKNESS are useful in this >context... > >-----Original Message----- >From: Aline Ferreira [mailto:aline@mail.ua.pt] >Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 11:39 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Query > > >Dear all, >A student of mine is writing an MA thesis about transvestism, bodily >changes and gender as performance. She is looking at Angela Carter's >Passion of New Eve (man into woman) and Rose Tremain's Sacred Country >(woman into man) but she would like to include one or two other texts. I >am having some difficulty coming up with new titles. Can somebody help? >Thanks in advance! >Aline > >-------------------------------------------------- >This is the FEMINISTSF listserve, intended only for >discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To >unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to >LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: > unsubscribe FEMINISTSF > >Contact FEMINISTSF-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. -------------------------------------------------- This is the FEMINISTSF listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF Contact FEMINISTSF-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:47:01 -0600 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Todd Mason Subject: Howard Awards. Comments: To: Horror in Film and Literature Comments: cc: "bestsuspense@egroups.com" , "sciencefiction-l@listserv.indiana.edu" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The 2000 World Fantasy Awards: Best Novel: Martin Scott, _Thraxas_ (Orbit) Best Novella(tie): Jeff VanderMeer, "The Transformation of Martin Lake" (Palace Corbie 8) Laurel Winter, "Sky Eyes" (F&SF, 3/99) Best Short Fiction: Ian R. MacLeod, "The Chop Girl" (Asimov's, 12/99) Best Anthology: Ellen Datlow & Terri Windling, eds., _Silver Birch, Blood Moon_ (Avon) Best Collection(tie): Charles de Lint, _Moonlight and Vines_ (Tor) Stephen R. Donaldson, _Reave the Just and Other Tales_ (Voyager '98; Bantam Spectra) Best Artist: Jason Van Hollander Special Award, Professional: Gordon Van Gelder for editing (St. Martin's Press and F&SF) Special Award, Non-Professional: The British Fantasy Society Lifetime Achievement Award: Michael Moorcock -------------------------------------------------- This is the FEMINISTSF listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF Contact FEMINISTSF-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 19:21:58 -0000 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Lesley Hall Subject: Re: Query: transgender MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Would Virginia Woolf's _Orlando_ count? Lesley Hall lesleyah@primex.co.uk website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah -------------------------------------------------- This is the FEMINISTSF listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF Contact FEMINISTSF-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:46:12 -0500 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Misha Bernard Subject: book suggestions- thanks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just wanted to thank everyone who make book suggestions. Our library had a surprising number of the non-fiction- but I hope that now we'll have a lot more both fiction and nonfiction! Thanks for the thoughtful replies, misha Misha Bernard Cultural Studies PhD student mbernar1@gmu.edu George Mason University ------------------------- -mmmm! tastes like a scratch world! but it's Bishop Berkeley's Cosmo Mix!- Ursula K. Le Guin "World Making" (1981) -------------------------------------------------- This is the FEMINISTSF listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF Contact FEMINISTSF-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:53:48 -0700 Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: "Laura J. Mixon-Gould" Subject: Re: FW: Query: transgender sf In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit on 10/31/00 9:39 AM, Todd Mason at Todd.Mason@TVGUIDE.COM wrote: > Dear all, > A student of mine is writing an MA thesis about transvestism, bodily > changes and gender as performance. She is looking at Angela Carter's > Passion of New Eve (man into woman) and Rose Tremain's Sacred Country > (woman into man) but she would like to include one or two other texts. I > am having some difficulty coming up with new titles. Can somebody help? > Thanks in advance! > Aline My book PROXIES also has some transgender stuff in it, as does my first adult SF novel, GLASS HOUSES (now oop, unfortunately). -- Laura J. Mixon | ljm@digitalnoir.com | www.digitalnoir.com -------------------------------------------------------------- PROXIES- Future-noir with a heart of gold (and buns of steel) (Tor, Oct 1999 ISBN 0812523873) http://www.digitalnoir.com/prx -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- This is the FEMINISTSF listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF Contact FEMINISTSF-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:30:33 EST Reply-To: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" Sender: "For discussion of feminist SF, fantastic & utopian literature" From: Christine Ethier Subject: Re: Howard Awards. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for infro. Christine -------------------------------------------------- This is the FEMINISTSF listserve, intended only for discussion of feminism and Speculative Fiction. To unsubscribe from this listserve, send a message to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU and in the body of the message say: unsubscribe FEMINISTSF Contact FEMINISTSF-request@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU if there are problems.