Re: delany

From: Robin Gordon (gordonro@GOV.ON.CA)
Date: Mon Apr 07 1997 - 07:29:53 PDT


Happy Monday everyone. I would like to suggest that the tangential
discussion going on regarding the age old question "can men be
feminists"is a bottomless pit which threatens to consume this list. Of
course this is an, at times, interesting and potentially important
discussion, I'd like to suggest that this isn't really the place for it,
unless discussed with relation to sf (which is possible). While I can
only speak for myself I expect other women on this list who are
politically involved have been through this discussion more times than we
can count, like myself, and don't necessarily want to run through it again
here when there are so many interesting issues to discuss with relation to
the lists theme of sf and feminism. After reading Stone's post I could
have a lot to say in reaction, but just don't think this is the place.

On to feministsf: I was thinking on the weekend about sf movies, which I
tend to enjoy greatly, whether they're intelligent or just entertaining,
everything from the star trek films to bladerunner to 12 monkeys, strange
days, etc. I'm not very familiar with the older scifi films. My question
is this, can anyone think of sf films they would consider to be feminist?
The only two I can think of are: 1. Tank Girl, which I loved and very few
people saw. It has a fabulous cartoon riotgrrl quality, great
take-no-shit action heroes for young and old girls alike, not to mention
the lesbian undertones. 2. The film version of The Handmaid's Tale, which
I thought was only ok, I appreciate it's a difficult book to film but
still could have been better. Of course I can postulate some of the
reasons we see few feministsf movies, hollywood inevitably considers young
men the primary audience for sf movies. And hollywood sf movies are big
budget, so particularly there no risks of "alternate" themes or work are
likely to appear. Is it possible to make good sf on a small budget for
the big screen?

In solidarity, an "extreme" feminist socialist dyke,

Robin Gordon



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